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Medical screening
lulu06-Apr-22
Just for our health's sake, we need regular check-ups at the doctors. With women needing mammograms after 50 or so, I once told my GP that checking for breast lumps would be easier if there could be a dummy that women could feel that sort of thing and was told that there is such a thing, but this practice could not afford it. Wouldn't you think governments should pay for such things?
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    • The doctor or nurse in your clinic should be able to teach you how to do the test and what you will feel if it is unusual. No reason why you can’t go into the doctor to get checked if you noticed something unusual. You would do this regardless of whether you had felt a model or not
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      • Never considered that, seems so simple I wonder why it isn't already here.
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        • Speaking as a male, and yes men can get breast cancer as well, ladies if you feel something that doesn't feel right or you're concerned about get it checked immediately. Too many women, I think, are leaving it too late to get it checked.
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          • As a male I had breast cancer and lost left breast a few years ago. Then I had to an annual mammogram which I had to pay for. I didn't qualify for free breast screen. Now as a pensioner I don't pay but did for years. Very unfair I thought.
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        • Sounds like a good idea
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          • I know what you are saying Linda so many women don't know what to do to check themselves, mammograms are not my cup of tea, but so important for a safe life
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            • YES
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              • Did it again. I can't type it without the bloody feeding coming up
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                • Sorry that should be breastfeeding screening. I hate auto prompt on my phone. Ha ha
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                  • You can turn them off in the "Settings" mode.
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                • Absolutely,I actually got a letter over 12mths ago telling me I had to have a breastfeeding screen and that it was free. But at the time we had covid restrictions and was told by the radiologist that "non essential" screening was put off till further notice. Haven't heard anything since. I admit I have been slack and haven't contacted them to find out if I can book in ,but I only had a breast screen 6mths before and was told I would be notified. Unsure if I have to pay and lucky I didn't really have a real concern like a lump to check.
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                  • They already do! How much more is enough?
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                    • Yes the government should put more money into lifesaving screening g than other avenues
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                      • Who says we need regular check-ups, seems to me this is another USA way to make money. Talking to different doctors and Specialialists in my life, they agree, No need to have any costly tests unless you have symptoms... Our bodies will tell us faster than any test if there is something wrong. To each his own, but not much point wishing for something that is not available. Blessings
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                        • There are books and pamphlets you can buy...go buy one so you know what to check for. As many doctors do encourage people to check their own bodies for any suspicious lumps.. Including skin cancer.
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                          • News to me. But very good idea
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                            • As its 19 years to the day since my own dear mother died from breast cancer at the young age of 62, I would agree that existing products such as the one referred to SHOULD be made available. There's a lot of government money spent on utter nonsense that surely funding should be made available to save many, many women just like my own mum. Thanks for reading.
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                              • Its not the government who pays for it, you ...it comes from TAXES. We don't need another expense like fake dummy's.
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                              • Politicians travel expenses being one
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                              • My mum too..though sadly she had a lump for a long time apparently before getting it checked.
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                            • I don't know about dummies For breast check ups. But I do believe you are one if you don't get them checked. they found a lump in my wife before she could feel it.
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                              • My life was saved by Lifepool, a cancer research company. When having my mammogram, I was asked if I wanted to be part of research as I had an aunt who had had breast cancer. They found out I had the BRCA2 gene mutation, and the cancer had started in one of my breasts but not spread. I had my ovaries and both breasts removed and there was no need for any chemo. Medicare now covers genetic testing for this, if you have breast, ovarian or prostate cancer in your family, I would recommend to have this checked. I had huge saddlebags breasts that were dense, and I felt no lump, and the mammogram wouldn't have picked up anything as it was in the calcification.
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                                • Mary - I am really sorry to hear that. I think you are very brave. Love and hugs to you. xxoo
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                                • Also if you have bowel cancer in your family...breast, ovarian and bowel cancer are connected...if someone in you family has had one of these then there is a chance you might get one of them
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                                • IdentifyAsJANET R 328390
                                  thank you Janet, I'm lucky. I'm still here and ok. So many others lose their lives early.
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                              • Women who have abortions are more at risk of that cancer... according to previous studies. It serves them right for killing an innocent fetus.
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                                • I can't imagine a medical clinic being short of a dollar...
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                                  • A scandanvian study in 2015 said there was little difference between those who have the tests and those that don't in regards to survival rates. Its money wasted and it all goes to the doctors. It should not be free either. Other tests are not free. If you have a family history then it might be worthwhile. But for most its not needed. Learn to check your own body for lumps.
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                                    • They say prevention is better than cure. My Mum's dear friend had breast cancer and has passed. She had chemotherapy and other dramatic so called therapies but it in the end still killed her as it spread to her liver. She was quite young and it really upset my Mum. I have my check ups when required even though I did miss a few while we were travelling. Yes sadly we don't get the opportunity to fully understand what one should be feeling if they do get a lump. There should be some where were we can go and get these answers. My husband had a sarcoma (cancer) which was allowed to grow to the size of an orange on his shoulder before he finally went to the right hospital (the PA) to have it removed.8 months, 3 hospitals and 9 GP's later. He was so lucky it hadn't been more serious, if it had wrapped around his bone he would have lost his arm and shoulder. Scary. Living in the country we do put our lives at risk as we simple do not have enough hospitals now and our population is going to double by 2050. Things are just going to get so much worse if the government doesn't wake up and fix the problem now. There is only 1 hospital in the whole of Queensland that deal with sarcomas and that is the PA in Brisbane. These rare types of cancers are becoming more common and there should be a lot more done to help people in their time of need.
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                                      • I have one every 2 years
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                                        • No comment but I have mine every two years.
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                                          • I don't see why ultrasounds are always used, they' have to be less punishing and would probably provide a better diagnosis
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                                            • A dummy is very cheap so I can't accept that. Also, I have had two mammograms but value my breasts so won't be doing it again in a hurry. To see my mammary glands squashed like that was horrifying and I wonder what sicko invented it. Can't be good and I think it is detrimental to our health.
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                                              • don't know about women tests but I freakout with Catscans. I find them very confining and stressful. had a couple of times and felt panicking coming on.
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                                                • What? We now expected to shop around for dummies as well as utilities and such like .. no wonder people's stress levels are going up!
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                                                  • Medical screening is important detect anything that might cause sometimes you cannot feel lumps that is why you need mammograms'.
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                                                    • Not so!
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                                                  • Do Private medical Clinics - as most of them are - actually get Government funding or is is just those huge, impersonal one-size-fits-all clinics brought in by governments in which you see any doctor who happens to be free when you make an appointment or even with one when you arrive you are told that they are not available and you will be seeing someone else, someone you have never seen before and who is basically simply not interested in you as you are really nothing more than a number?
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                                                    • It depends. Clinics get so much funding from the government. Maybe the clinics dont think it's necessary and so that's why they dont put the funding they get in to it.
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                                                      • I really don’t like doctors
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                                                        • The old finger in the bum and PSA checks caught my cancer early. Now it’s gone but lucky for me I had private insurance. If you go public you could be waiting until it’s too late. I think if politicians forgo their perks then there would be enough money for all the small clinics to have the right equipment. A small pain for a greater good…..lol
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                                                          • Thank goodness for our cancer test in Australia as no finger in the bum is necessary, initially, anyway.
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                                                        • Rather get my boob squashed for a few min than get breast cancer its only every 2 years
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                                                          • Do you worry that they will damage your mammary glands? I find the procedure torturous and will insist on a sonar scan next time.
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                                                          • You might get cancer from the mammograms
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                                                        • yes indeed Linda
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                                                          • My wife says that getting her boobs squashed, hurts like hell and she reconds that it's doing more harm than good.
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                                                            • My darling says that also but she reckons getting breast cancer will be worse. I go and sit in the waiting room while she gets it done and just a tip…guys can get breast cancer also so a small pain to prevent tragedy
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                                                            • I totally agree with her. I was just waiting for a popping sound as my mammary glands burst. This is a sick procedure and please tell your wife that sonar test is available instead.
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                                                            • Helen A 395807Joe B 288252
                                                              The concern for some of us is that the damage done to our breasts during this procedure will cause cancer. It is horrifying to see ones' breasts is such a state.
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                                                            • GazaHelen A 395807
                                                              yes, pancakes rings a bell.
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                                                          • I think they should be free for all women. The government pay to have new furniture when we get a new prime minister even if the old furniture is only a couple of years old. We pay for them to fly everywhere for free, they get a pension no matter how old they are if served in politics for 2 years (I know this is true because I know someone who did just that) and they can earn as much as they like without having to get means tested. We can't even get the pension unless we can pass all the criteria so why can't they pay for a dummy to help us know what to look for. I get the mammogram for free but some people have to travel to get it done which isn't always possible.
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                                                            • The government needs new furniture so that they are comfortable whilst raping women and probably men. This government is so corrupt they should be line up and shot. They are so out of touch that they think the taxpayers' money is theirs to do as they wish.
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                                                            • No.
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                                                          • I do get tired of this myth that governments pay for things. taxpayers pay for things.
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                                                            • Including the effing gummint…..lol
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                                                          • The government das pay things that they don't needed. Why not make cheap for women how want to used its.
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                                                            • i don't understand-what would the dummy do? i don't mind mammograms- they free here for my age.
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                                                              • What's country
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                                                              • Helen A 395807Mary M 329762
                                                                Australia for over 50s
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                                                              • The dummy would show how to probably examine the breasts and so I can see the benefit.
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                                                              • mary cMary M 329762
                                                                and NZ
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                                                            • I hope you do realise that mammograms release radiation when you have them? The more you get...the more risk you are from having problems. And why should it be PUBLIC FUNDED? It should not be free...you should pay for it...as others are paying for your treatment.
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                                                              • You are responsible for your own health. Some hospitals don't have the funds to cater to every whim. I don't go for checkups anyhow. If something breaks down I will deal with it when the time comes. I don't like doctors! There are many false mammograms as well. People being told they might have cancer when they don't. I think people waste too many resources going to doctors too often. Take responsibility for yourself and stop complaining.
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                                                                • If rather live and not know if I got something I mean it's better for your mind less fear of death the unknown why prolong something that will eventually happen???
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                                                                  • You right i see its peoples are fearbof death are they are big bullets to do things
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                                                                  • I read that until late 90s that doctors in Japan would not tell patients they had a terminal illness as they believed this news would be self fulfilling. I agree and don't want to hear "You are going to die" because I already know that.
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                                                                  • Mary M 329762Helen A 395807
                                                                    my husband in Europe and if doctor know you got cancer they tell the family and if they want to tell person or keep away from them or etc. Its they right. Sometimes a person dasn't wabt to know they die.
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                                                                • I honestly think that you don't need to see a doctor unless you are unwell or managing a illness that requires attention!!we all need to be accepting of the fact that there is life and after that is death and our bodies are eventually made to break down and then we pass and go into another life!I discovered this after an fall many years that nearly took my life!I rehabilitate myself without need of doctors due to not being taken seriously enough due to my personal circumstances of my relationship to my ex violent partner!.Some doctors see other illnesses and fail to treat the ones that are underlying or urgently required.I have missed out on what I needed and now attending to it then years later dealing with aftermath of what wasn't taken seriously and ignored and that's why when you try to contact doctors to get information it's swept under the carpet to legally protected them their misdiagnosis.Governments job is to hold pharmaceutical companies and doctors hand I'm reluctant to think that every test you have is needed everything a business so are taking pills or having a mammogram
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                                                                  • I agree!
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                                                                  • Thank you for revealing that Ally. That is very personal and I really appreciate your insights. I am glad that your are so strong and wise. I would like to send you some love and pride, pride because you are amazing. Wow!
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                                                                • No - I think governments should fund all sexes getting regular professional breast exams from the moment they reach puberty or similar hormone stage. I have naturally lumpy breasts and rely on my GP and a local breast-screening centre to sort out the dangerous ones from the natural lumps. Schools and GP's should get funding to train younger people from a very young age about breast care. Parents need to be stepping up and training all their children as well. It is not just women that can have breast issues.
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                                                                  • Are you going to pay for it? That's silly! Puberty, there is no reason to screen for cancer.
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                                                                  • I agree. I don't want to argue with men about medical procedures. We should be all entitled.
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                                                                • No. There are a lot of volunteers that do it for free
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                                                                  • Use yourself not a dummy.
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                                                                    • Hahahahaha
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                                                                  • I advise all women over 50 to do mammogram checks. Not every GP is equipped with a mammogram scan, but be active. Better save than sorry
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                                                                    • Do your own! Save money .
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                                                                    • GPs don't have the mammogram machine...
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                                                                  • Mammogram is good. Even if hurts for a bit, the pain is worth it. Regular check up will keep us women in tab of our health rather than not having mammogram and finds out you got undetected breast cancer. So to all women, even younger ones, pls do your mammogram for a healthier YOU! We are blessed in NZ that this is a free service for women 45 and over.
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                                                                    • I can't do mammograms right now until the age of 45 years and over, but it sounds good idea do a medical screening.
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                                                                      • scared.
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                                                                        • Sounds like a good idea.
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                                                                          • I totally agree that the government should pay for those things. In Australia, over the past 9 years under the Federal Liberal party government; they have CUT funding to the health / medical care system in many ways. Prior to the Liberal government, the LABOR party government use to fund all of those types of things at hospitals and GP clinics and use to rebate much more through Medicare when seeing specialists plus covered the costs of many other medical / health services. During the last 9 years under the Federal Liberal governments specialists no longer bulk bill due to the small amount Medicare pays them, Many GPs are charging "GAP" fees because Medicare does not pay enough....I suffer from a build up of wax in my ear once a year and I always get my GP / nurse to clean them, which use to be FREE of charge however as from last year my GP clinic now charges $30 for that service which they claim is to cover the costs of cleaning the medical tools they use. Over the last 5 months my GP has referred me to 5 different specialists, for 5 new different medical conditions; ALL of who refuse to bulk bill and charge $ 180 per consultation and Medicare rebates only $35 from each of those $ 180 fees; therefore I have NOT been able to see any of those specialists. After talking to the receptionist of some of those specialists I found that SOME of them will bulk bill IF I see them under the "PUBLIC" health care system which has a 2 to 5 year waiting list to see them. This is why MANY people in Australia are dying from their medical conditions because they have to wait too long to get treatment, cannot get treatment due to high costs OR even waiting a long time for a ambulance to turn up OR wait long times to be transferred from the ambulance to the hospital ER
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                                                                            • Puzzlement! Why would anyone expect health care (cost) to be reasonable on a capitalistic planet (when the basic tenet of capitalism is based on profits over people)? Medical screening is available in the USA - with the latest technology. However, you have to pay for it - out of your pocket, not your health plan pocket!
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                                                                              • Hi Walter. Your health system sucks and is the worst I know of. We expect free healthcare here, in Australia, and in NZ and in the UK and Cuba. A society is judged by how well its poorest are treated and your country is a third world country in this area, as you well know and have experienced your whole life. On another note, I hope things are good there, Walter. It is starting to get cold here and I loathe it. Still, I have been gold panning and had some fun, but only got a couple of specks.
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                                                                              • BLACK LIVES MATTERHelen A 395807
                                                                                Hi Helen - it is starting to get warm here in the Northern Hemisphere - it is starting to get cold in the Southern Hemisphere. You nail the health care system in the USA!
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                                                                            • Sounds like a good idea.
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                                                                              • What Re you talking about? I don't understand the question
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                                                                                • That sounds like a good idea. Perhaps the mamogram screening buses or rooms could have something like this. It would be another tool to try and save lives.
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                                                                                  • Better use a specialist doctor.
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                                                                                    • The government can only do so much. Everything costs money. The government has no money. So, what to do?
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                                                                                      • I know. They used it all drinking the most expensive case of Grange after delivering our budget to allow the rich to get richer. Bastards!
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