Fingerprints facial recognition and voice activation should eventually get rid of cumbersome passwords

I totally agree with you Elizabeth, I get so frustrated when I cannot remember my own pass words, and sometimes honestly, places act like they harass us when we cannot remember the pass word, how can we keep up with so many changes on them. I have tried writing them down, have to throw book after book after book away. That is why I cannot remember my own passwords.

What annoys me lately is some of these Cyber criminals are now breaking into bank and super fund accounts regardless of passwords and stealing money. So nothing is sacred or 100% secure.

It is getting worse and those who don't remember things are the losers in this game. It is stopping the wrong people from accessing their own accounts.

OMFG now the bank wants me to take a selfie to prove it is me transferring money from my account to an account I have in another bank which I have been transferring to for years. This bank has an authenticator app (and it was only a small amount) so why on earth did they need a selfie of me when I have done this hundreds of times before (with and without authenticator app approval). The other rampant stupidity is I have also registered voice id (which they also forced me to do) so why didn't they give me an option for what to use instead of just forcing me to take a selfie? FFS it was only a $50 transaction that I have done many times before between the same accounts so I really don't see why this extra security was necessary. I think they just want MORE of our data as the only OTHER option it had that was acceptable was to register my fingerprint.Edited 27-Apr-25 22:49pm

I write mine in a small book

I use Microsoft's Password Manager (which tends to remember MOST of my passwords), as well as a notebook where I can write down passwords. Still--I HATE passwords. Who can keep changing their passwords and remember them all?

I'm over it, my husband won't bother with them. It's all up to me to remember all of our accounts. You also need a code off your phone or email now with your password. I would perfer the internet to disappear for good.

Some things require a QR code which I cannot get on my phone.

Amen SIster I absolutely detest the security measures on MyGov, twice I have been locked out entirely requiring a visit to their office because their phone line these days only deals with emergencies with specific questions only. Banks can be just as bad with AI bot who can't understand what you want or are trying to do.

I am not averse to changing, passwords but,what they require is ludicrous so stick it

A Password .. another code.. change your password over and over.. ..sick of it ....get a code.. If you forget the last change.... you spend more time with mucking around... WHAT DO OLD PEOLPLE DO?.. sorry sick of it.and after that they say not to use the same one....

Not only do we now need a password many places also send a code. That happened to us while we were overseas and unable to receive the code so the bank locked us out of our account and we weren't able to get any money transferred to our currency card or ATM. There can be cases of too much security.

Yep I feel the same.!

Yep

It is needed to protect our security. Best is to find a formula that is easy to remember.

It is what it is.

It's necessary to protect your valuable data etc,just use a password book then you won't need to remember then hide it away somewhere secure if you need to leave the house or just take it with you in your handbag.

Don't use he same passwords/dont write them down /use upper case and numbers/use a second security feature /we are going paperless wether you want to or not blah blah Then what . Everything from banking to Medical tosimply buying books/goods/shopping on line etc .Painful and getting worse.

It's just another step you have to take to stay safe so to me it is worth it.

No , it’s absolutely necessary

I can certainly understand passwords with all the technology we have but I have so much trouble thinking of one. I know it isn't possible but can't all passwords have the same length and also include all the other requirements. 😐

These fancy pants passwords are crazy. My daughter changes her Afterpay password after every purchase and every payment. I liked the days when you went to Aussie Post, bought a cheque, and posted it, same with every bill you had, easier is never easier, I have no idea how people remember these passwords when they are changed so often , i think we need to simplify things not make them more complicated

I believe it is important to use complicated passwords for safety especially there are so many fraudsters and scams around nowadays.

No I feel it is for our security in a world of technology. I write all my passwords down and do not trust computer management to store my passwords.

It's important to have different passwords for different things and in some cases make the password complex, however it's always essential to change passwords so people can't snoop or get in on your private information

Password managers are a thing and very easy to use

Yes, it is frustrating! One of the online communities I belong to requires changing the password 4 times per year and work requires once yearly and 2 step authentications.

I hate it when I need verification to answer the request for verification

It is quite frustrating but it is for our benefit so we must think up different words, numbers etc. for our protection. Scammers are very intelligent so beware at all times.

My bank saved me from a scammer as it was from overseas and amount quite sizeable

I'm okay with password requirements though would prefer they not make me change it every time I login, I do however object to having to use an app that needs my ID docs to be able to use govt services - esp when they cant keep my data safe so why should i give them my id docs?

Mÿ sister just moved back to the states from Panama. She said they don't have that much security there as in the states. I guess we all have to move.

What I find more frustrating is how come our Government is NOT CAPABLE of controlling scammers so less security needed. I thought our Government was supposed to be running the country?????

I don't mind the Password difficulties but I strongly object to those Re-Captcha things, where the image are so Dark or so Distorted or overlap the squares which if you cover, say the whole Motorcycle, Fire hydrant by going into another square sometimes the system accepts that overlap but at other times it doesn't. On ocassion I have had to go through up to 15 different Re-Captchas before I satisfy the nemaless, faceles individuals who control that system.

Yeag

I was scammed a couple of weeks ago but fortunately I went into my bank account on Monday morning and picked it up straight away. I rang the bank and then I had to go in and hand in my card and have now been waiting for two weeks for a replacement. I had to change my password as well. I am so glad that I went into the account when I did.

You can never have enough security with all these bloody scammers around nowadays

I feel your frustration too. The only people this security seems to deter is us - the people it is supposedly designed to protect.

It is frustrating but I write down all my passwords so I do not rely on my memory. Some of these systems are ridiculous. They send something to you via the email and then send you another email to confirm. Counter productive that is.

agree fully

i agree very frustrating .

I used to have the same problems...resetting password..etc...but not anymore ! There are some websites that can create a password for you if you want..and the password is saved. It's working great. I have the link here, it's in French but you'll find easily the English version. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/lastpass-free-password-ma/hdokiejnpimakedhajhdlcegeplioahd

I am not on the internet loggin into many websites for PW to bother me. It is all about control not security and I have only one site that asks to update pw and that is every 12 ths and they cant tell if it is similar to previous. SO it doesnt bother me. Not online and loggin into many websites, So cant help as I am not affected ...... YET.... that time will come when the control tightens, Google Miscrosoft are trying to tighten the control

Yes, I get it but what;s the alternative in todays world, security serves a safe purpose

Yes especially when it is a site you regularly use and they keep querying you, just click on your profile pic, use a fingerprint of facial recognition...

Yes

Yes.. I frequently have to reset passwords coz I can't remember them all

yes yes yes

Absolutely yes, it's soo frustrating

Yes it is getting very frustrating

Passwords …. Verification codes …. Secret questions … and I can hardly remember my name anymore 😉 Unfortunately these are a necessary evil

But the benefits of getting products and services online are far greater than the pressure to maintain passwords. Just come up with a system to keep your passwords.

street names and numbers ,places I have lived ,pet names ,brothers and sisters names year they were born same for parents ,song names I like .Finger print square like a QR code would be great no prints are the same .

I use verses or phrases, easier to remember if I have to put a number makes it more difficult , I have a book with them in, however so many are altered & wonder which one is the correct at times have put one in that I know is correct they still knock it back suck a difficult world we live in much easier when you wnet to a bank had the stuff mailed & it would arrive the telephone usually worked, can see I am getting old.

try getting one face recognized when a system id totally insecure

Yes. Very annoying...

It is certainly frustrating, trying to keep all my passwords straight.

And with all the things you do these bloody hackers are always in front

The company I worked for insisted we change our password every 3 months so I kept the same word but changed the number at the end which I wrote on my office wall. By the time I retired the wall was pretty much covered in numbers…….lol

I totally agree. Technology was intended to make thing easier. It has turned out to be the opposite.

With the passwords I try to use combination of my first name,birthdate and @ on the end. I like everyone forget it and need a reminder sent to reset it. Only snag is the system says use one you have never used before so thinking cap on.

I use Google password Manager, remember them all for me.

How would you feel if you had less password protection and someone was able to access your accounts, in anything you passwords for? You would be angry at first, then wonder why wasn't there more protections for my account ? Then you would have to spend who knows how much time to get your ' whatever' back and better protected for the future. having to add numbers or special characters probably would not be as time consuming. Those password protections are put in place for you.

i cant even remember all my passwords

It's a bit annoying but I'd rather the current system than having to scan our retinas, use chip implants etc

I've never bothered with a password manager. the thing I don't like is being at an ATM. Never teach Neo to use an ATM for you its fingers are even slower.

Definitely

I kept on forgetting my password, so I changed it to “INVALID”. Now, if I put something else in, the computer tells me: “Your password is invalid”, and I think: “That’s right!”

Yes, especially the ones that give you 3 tries.

So true, and I still get breached from time to time.

Maybe you could just do some searching on Google...learn about password managers. It's part of the reason I keep Norton Anti Virus going...it has a great password manager. There are plenty of others like LastPass etc.

I keep a small alpha index book for passwords as can’t remember them all. It’s for our own safety I agree but can be annoying with 2 factor security!

What a pain.

Their all a big headache

Yes very frustrating. You have to have a book to record all passwords.

Yes very frustrating the password rules. I reset mines because I forget very often

I feel your frustration. I think we all do. probably a password manager is the way to go, it can't you just see all the scammed out there in this unsafe word trying to hack them. I did an online course many years ago now,I think suggested to me by my bank, on different techniques to select memorable passwords. you go for phrases that having meaning to you but in the process you could use a number 0 instead of the letter o, or you could use ! Instead of i, # instead of h, 3 for e, @ for a. You could make a list of these coded letters at least until you memorise them. An example could be: !l0v3r3ward!@. I hope this helps. I found it to be an enormous help.

yes

yes indeed Elizabeth

Yes I agree Michael

I keep an address book and put my passwords in there. So the name of the company/website corresponds to the letting in the address book. Very helpful at times.

OMG, since submitting this topic, I have been forced to change at least 6 passwords and on top of thinking up something new that fit all the rules, I had to pass tests to prove that I was not a robot and these tests were horrible (squashed letters and numbers that you have to judge whether or not they are capitals). Really funny because for one of these I was at work and my coworkers could not work out the difference and they thought I was wrong on my third try (the first two tries were even harder and even though we pretty much agreed what the code said, we were wrong) and on the final try, I said "no, this one is a lower case" and the rest said "doesn't look like it" because the letters were the same size as the upper case ones in the puzzle and I said "no, you can just see the little tip above the p and this is how you would write a lower case p" and I was right. Seriously, that lower case p was the same size as all the upper case letters (which were all slanted, deformed and squashed). Now I have to remember that password for another 4-6 weeks before work mandates I change it and I go through this rotten guess the Microsoft letter number puzzle.🤣

I agree. I think many companies go over board with so called security. Seems the ideal of Keep I Simple has gone. Personally I feel if someone is going to hack they will use computer systems that will outsmart any password if they want

For me I'm sick of needing to install stupid apps for almost EVERY thing.

I always have them writen down so when I need to change them I just go and change it no big deal I would rather stay safe than be hacked

Once again it's the "good people" who get punished or more put upon them/us because of all the mischief the "bad people" created and get away with mosst of the time. Just noticed that Ian 1561638 offers some sound advice/solution regarding Managing Passwords.

I use my brain for all those that tied to financial matters (banking, shopping, finance) All good till I need it transplanted. For all the others of no real importance I generally always say I cannot remember my password and just get a new one every time against a two type identification.Edited 27-Apr-25 07:06am

used to use a book to record them. Now I use a password manager. You only need to remember 2 passwords - one to log in to your device and one to get into the p/w manager and away you go. They auto generate p/ws that take 3000 years to crack. Auto-fill works well with them too. Check out free Dashlane, just one of many.Edited 27-Apr-25 06:48am

password manager, the days of remembering 100 passwords is over,,,, yes, drove me mad until password managers came about......

yep it is i had to recently reset my email and password on a survey site that i had been a member for years when my last laptop went buns up so did my password and email grrrrrrrr

You can thank all the scammers for this.

It's the price we have to pay because of the ever growing threat from our friendly Russians Chinese north Koreans Iranians who wreak havoc on our online existence. The only way this will work properly is if there is a ground zero reset of the www where unless yoire registered you simply can't use it and your 2 factor authentication can be biometric with a 22 digit password. If you can't get in then no one else can either What about going into a retail store with cash and doing a little haggling

I hate being told what my password should include. It's MY password and if I'm stupid enough to want it to be 12345 then that's my business. Not that I would but I just hate being told what to do. 😡

It's true, but we need it because of security reasons

Yes it is. 🤪

Yes, and then after a time they ask you to change your password to something that you have never used before. It drives me crazy.

nope

I have taken to writing out my passwords, the websites I use them in, and the date I formulated them, because I am sick and tired of getting stymied by messages "you used this last month, or last week, or last year!" Now I guard this notebook with my life, but I breathe easier now with it by my side.

Hi Elizabeth T. I only visit three websites where I need a password. I log-in everyday at my three websites; hence, my IP address logs me in (as long as I used my computer at my place of residence every day). Furthermore, I keep all passwords offline (on paper). Is too much security at websites driving me MAD? NO! Is too much advertising (online) driving me CRAZY? YES! However, I am looking forward to the day - I can do 'everything' offline (Yeah! I know - a pipe dream - LOL)! Edited 27-Apr-25 07:44am