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We just want to take care of you....honest!
APB08-Dec-23
I have just been reading about an existing service...for older people...where the local authorities can go through with you...your eating and drinking habits...exercise patterns in fact every facet of your life really...and with their experts... come up with the perfect plan as to what you should be doing...it is very likely that none of these people are very old themselves.....the service is totally free...and at the moment at least...you do not have to do what they say or anything...sounds wonderful...right?....or just a little bit scary.....
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  • So many comments on here about controlling your life and governments and conspiracy theories and rip offs. In Australia we have Aged Care. If you want you can have an assessment to see how you’re coping with self care and home care. Then if you need some help you can use the services offered. Believe it or not some people may not realise they aren’t coping so well themselves and actually need it. It’s care, it’s help and for most of the elderly or vulnerable it’s welcome.
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    • yes sir,, there is always something someone is going to give you free,, i got my free gift last week when some loser passed a cold to me,,,, but why do people hold their chin when they think, are they afraid the lower jaw will fall off if they talk??,, now there is a question,,, imma leave you some musrooms for you salad A 🤣
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      • I already have had flack from Liane over the dude above...I didn't choose the picture...my theory is that he had super glue on his fingers and is now trying to work out what to do next....
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      • at least he is smart enough not to try and use his other hand to help,,, or if he was to accidentally stick to it with the other hand if he was pickin a booger,,,, just a thought, want a bite of my sammich???
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      • i wasn't messin with you bout your choice of pics A,, it was just in jest about my free gift,, great discussion kemosabe always,,, well most always,,, ;-)) < i'm layin down an smilin,, as i know you old folfs don't know what emoji's are ,, or i reckon, spel 🤣🤣🤣
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      • APBallin
        it was a good job he didn't need the toilet
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      • imma go chek out bongo
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    • Generally it sounds good. However I attended a pain clinic a while ago for us (about 20 or so sufferers) to be told by a pregnant 20 something that we don’t need pain killers. And she was looking forward to her first birth drug free! Lottsa luck I reckon. But to have advice as one ages is OK. As long as you have ownership and are able to work with it. Good health everyone.
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      • good one Jim..thanks
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    • Get it all on paper and copy as a hard copy record is always needed in these situations .
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      • Do not believe it
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        • Sounds good
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          • I own my life! It's not there for some to mess with.-Yeah - nah like my own control.
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            • Yar sure
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              • As a 73 year old with a lot of aches and pain because of collapsing spine, My doctor put me in touch with NDIS, with a healthy package, I have 2 ladies that come for 3 hours Monday to Friday, they do the house work, and if on shopping day I'm in pain and can't move, the do my shopping, Friday is our social day, so we go out, and on Thursday I have Physio, and once a month I have my gardner, it's all gratefully paid for by NDIS, so no thanks I don't need anyone else
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                • Looks worried
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                  • I didn't pick you for the grey skivvy type ...
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                    • I couldn't carry that off...and sadly neither can the model above...
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                    • Yes I think he does need services of some description ..a bit of a worry ! .He does look quite worried..
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                    • allinLiane H
                      course he's worried,, his hand is stuck there with super glue,, keep up lassie,, read above,,,
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                  • So APB . . your talking about Rewardia right ?
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                    • Have they been in touch with you?
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                  • I've just done a survey on a subject very similar,. It described some ways of living at home with some home health services available to help you and what sort of things you might require in the future or what things put you off ,in getting home help . It seemed to have some good assistance programs on offer ( cost I do not know!) Also helps to navigate the services you want or cancel some. Wanting the right people in your home. For some it's just the company also has benefits. Scary they noted was did the person delay services to keep their independence and not be wanting to admit they're getting old and couldn't do things they used to. Gardening ,cleaning etc.. It all starts with an in home assessment.....lt may be slightly different from the program you mention but dependant on which way you look at it ,cherry pick what you think you would like/ needed to use or take nothing ,either or it's always up to you !
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                    • IS this avaiable from local council for seniors?
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                      • I looked at my own eating and drinking habits, exercise patterns, sleeping patterns, and came up with my own perfect plan as to what I should be doing. It was free, and I didn't have to follow through, but I wanted to be healthier. I cut my daily calorie count down to 1200, increased my fluid intake, and lost 40 pounds in 9 months. I sleep 7 hours a night, and I did NOT increase my exercise because, at 76 years old, I didn't feel like it. Now I weight 140 pounds, at 5' 2". My goal is 135, so I'm almost there! I learned, after trying almost everything advertised on TV for weight loss, that I could do it with nothing, on my own! Oh, I also do intermittent fasting by eating dinner before 7pm and breakfast at 11am. I'm happy, and healthy, and it didn't take anything but wanting to do it for me to get me here! If you're into walking, 10,000 steps a day works wonders! ;-D
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                        • well done!
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                      • Never heard of such a service. If you’re interested, ask for more info.
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                        • an ACAT assessment u mean?
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                          • I would be very wary because we just had an audit by the state government trying to help us use less electricity. The person was here for quite some time measuring everything, shower heads, appliances, checking curtains and floor coverings. Despite having a solar system we do use a lot of electricity so were hoping for some advice. Our appliances are all relatively new and come with either 4 or 5 stars so we have no idea what is using all the power. Our home rated within the normal range and the recommendation was for us to switch to gas. Another example of governments wasting tax payer money.
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                            • i am better off as i am
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                              • “Your eating and drinking habits” Sounds exactly the kind of program you need An rew, they’ll straighten your health out in no time. No more top shelf whiskey, or even peanut butter whiskey, forget those Vegemite and peanut butter sandwiches with chilli relish. From now on it would be zucchini and tofu sanga’s sans the butter or margarine. Plain boiled rice for brekky and a glass of warm Low fat milk for supper if you have been a good boy and didn’t upset the nursing staff or other inmates during the day. You will be feeling on top of the world in no time..
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                                • No wonder he's finding the concept scary ! 🤣
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                                • APBLiane H
                                  Doctor Doctor...if I stop smoking and drinking will I live longer?....no son..but it will REALLY feel like it....
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                                • APBLiane H
                                  is that home help?...or Pato doing it?
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                                • It sounds like a job for our resident Benny Hill!
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                              • I need all the help that I can get but I am worried that they will help me out of making my own decisions and limit any enjoyment of life.
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                                • Brian, please read my post. It's all the help you need to make your own decisions and enjoy your life to the fullest! writerrochelle
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                                • Brian L 387567writerrochelle
                                  Thanks. My comment was meant to be a little tongue in cheek but the sentiments hold true.
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                              • Stay away from the light! Choose the blue pill
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                                • Big Brother???????????????????
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                                  • When you say " local authorities "whom do you mean. Is this a government initiative, your doctor,the police? If it is your doctor then it's probably in your best interests to do so. That amount of pro active care where I am costs a significant amount of money. At least try and find out more about this or even better find someone who has participated already for their view. There is alot of things health wise that have no significant symptoms until it's untreatable so if your asked to have tests and don't understand why, then ask. It honestly could save your life.
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                                    • Who supplies this service? Are the workers licensed? Who, vets these examiners? This may be the time to remember: If it sounds too good to be true, then it probablyly is.
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                                      • If it helps anyone it's a great idea.
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                                        • Its a good idea some old people have no one to help them
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                                          • We get a healthcare plan once we hit 70 that covers most things - If we live that long!.
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                                            • A bit scary I would say and why would some one look after you for free. There could be a catch some were in the fine print. I would certainly not be signing any thing without another person going over what you are signing either a loved one or at least if you have one a solicitor or legal help.
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                                              • Intrusive
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                                                • In which country?
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                                                  • pour moi Papa
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                                                    • Nope
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                                                      • Sounds like that HORRIBLE phrase from 2020 ,"we're all in this together" which was a large turd of cow excrement! The program also sounds a lot like another phrase "We're from the government and we're here to help"! They can go and micromanage some other fools very existence but NOT mine! Thanks for reading!
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                                                        • Seems like a good idea. One thing that happens as we get older is that we get suspicious of everything.
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                                                          • hi cher, have a fun time (ty)
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                                                            • No thanks. They are already euthanasing the elderly.
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                                                              • Not for me. I hate those intrusive investigation type things. If I need something then I will handle it myself.
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                                                                • What is this service? Do they take personal info? Which local authorities? There is a lot on the internet anyway if you want to learn about health, exercise and other things for free without having to give away personal info.
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                                                                  • be careful APB
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                                                                    • No thanks..
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                                                                      • I refuse to be conned by these unusual offers
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                                                                        • All these wonderful ideas that arise about the " WE JUST WANT TO TAKE CARE OF YOU HONEST" statement sound so false it's all about trying to take advantage of older people and trying to convince them what is good and should be doing. These authorities have no right to dictate or control how you live.
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                                                                          • Scary, if you ask me.
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                                                                            • They can show you the way but you must walk the path
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                                                                              • Sounds ridiculously nosy and a "service" to be avoided. Yet more tax-payer money being wasted by those in charge. :-(
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                                                                                • I find it a lot scary with someone telling me how I should lead my life when there is nothing wrong with the way that I live. It is a problem that I have had most of my life with others telling me how to live only to discover that sometimes they follow my example, which is also very scary. I believe that when some tells others how to live, that they just want to justify their own lives. Here, have a smoke, it will not kill you. I have been doing it for years now. There is nothing wrong seeing how others like to life and maybe there i s something that others do, that can improve your own live.
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                                                                                  • I find HELP an offensive word particularly when used by members of the medical profession. They seem to have the idea you will live your life the way they tell you to and to hell with anything you want to do and they have the power to make you do as you are told for your own good which in all cases I have seen so far a life for length but not for living.
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                                                                                    • If u need help with all that then you are a target for this service.
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                                                                                      • Are they called " Google "?
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                                                                                        • Yeah, and "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you!" Always think for yourself and ask questions, then check the answers.
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                                                                                          • we live our lives without the help except from our doctor and we know whats going to harm us but lifeis for living so just enjoy what you do
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                                                                                            • No Thanks! The more control they get, the more they want. As, Biden wants my gas stove! No Way!!!
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                                                                                              • No, thanks, would not be interested.
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                                                                                                • It’s called aged care. It’s caring. I would be grateful that my needs were being addressed.
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                                                                                                  • It is great if you don't mind being controlled.
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                                                                                                  • BiscuitJANET R 328390
                                                                                                    exactly how are you being controlled ? You don’t have to do what is being suggested or recommended. If you do you’re simply being looked after.
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                                                                                                  • If they are talking about Aged Care homes - you do have to go along with what they tell you. Eat when you are told and what you are told etc etc. I have visited many of them.
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                                                                                                  • BiscuitJANET R 328390
                                                                                                    Of course you do, they have a structure and time frames to adhere to for meals, medication, personal care, activities etc. They couldn’t operate without out that. It’s not in order to personally control you, it’s to function efficiently. However if it’s care in your own home it’s simply helping with personal care and household chores if you need it, which is what I think the question was referring to.
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                                                                                                • No, thank you!
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                                                                                                  • Seems very controlling. No thank you
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                                                                                                    • Another way to have more of your rights taken away. That's how it sounds to me. Not to mention having someone from law enforcement hovering over you in control of every move you make. I believe that once you reach a certain age you should be able to do what you want to do. Isn't that the whole point in working all of your life? I always thought that was a lot of what RETIREMENT meant. If it is something that is affecting your health then that is why you have a family member(s). They after all now you better than a bunch of strangers. Nope. Definitely not for me.
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                                                                                                    • No thanks
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                                                                                                      • Hmmm what because you haven't been able to take care of yourselves before the powers that B came up with a brilliant way to tell you how you should be living your life......not sure what the problem is? lol
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                                                                                                        • If I needed this I would find a way to get it but I am fine the way I am and can do what I like when I like and I have worked in aged care so no how to help if someone to ask for it
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                                                                                                          • Tell them to shove it. We will do what we want to do and are comfortable with
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                                                                                                            • If I want advice I advice I will ask for it. If someone asks for my opinion I will mostly give it or tell them I do not know how to help. I try to help when asked. I have no idea how to help some folks. have a good day all.
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                                                                                                              • No! A million times NO! Of course there will always be those who want to take advantage of everything on offer. We may be told they are Free of Charge and well they may be for those who join in BUT someone has to pay for all these "Services" and it is usually other Ratepayers, the Taxpayers who pay with ever-increasing Council Rates, Federal, State & Territory Fees, Levies, Taxes etc.. We used to visit one of those so-called Aged Care Residential institutions, very fancy, very expensive offering almost everything EXCEPT Mental Stimulation. They had a resident Physiotherapist who conducted what he called Exercise Sessions every day. We were visiting a close family friend and went with them to thes so-called Exercises! What a pathetic Joke! The Exercise consisted of the inmates, having arrived by wheelchair, it was quicker for the staff to dump them in one than having to walk with them to the Exercise Room, which is what they all should have done, sitting on chairs in a circle, they were then handed two pieces of flimsy voile which, even using a set of Scientific Scales which can weigh 1/10th of a gramme or less,, would not have registered. The "exercise consisted of the inmates, still sitting, having a scrap of material in each hand and raising their arms up and down, 12 times each side. What this was supposed to acheive even heaven would be wondering! Councils, with the help of such Do-Gooder organisations such as Councils for the Agering, staffed entirely by what look like teenagers straight out of TAFE or some minor university, think they are helping. They're not they are just play acting, responding to the "Experts". get off you backsides, ladies and gentlemen, joim a Gym, they all have Real Exercise Programmes for Older people, they include Fexibility, Mobility Exercises, some Weight Training, many have a Dietitian who comes along once or twice a week who gives sensible advice. You actually have to exert yuorselves but isn't that the Reason you undetake some Exercise? Yes, you have to pay for it, but then nothing is Free unless you are happy to bludge off other Rate/Taxpayers.
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                                                                                                                • i am on the scary side,i do cop a bit of grief from NDIS people on how we should bring up Hunter telling us all of the above but at the same time they tell me every kid with autism is different these guys don't work with the kids they generally don't have kids yet they know how to be parents and what is best for our little guy,as they control our budget i listen and receive but work with the hands-on careers ,self-serving free help is trouble to me
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                                                                                                                  • It sounds a bit like Big Brother. It would be an individual choice. I don't like having anybody poking into every aspect of my life.
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                                                                                                                    • Me either.
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                                                                                                                  • Ideally, ONLY family members or closest friends should be so invested in one's holistic well-being.....Somewhere along their "conversations" with you, you'll see your wallet boring its way into the talks and literally taking over everything- rude! SCAM at least!
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                                                                                                                    • NO THANK YOU. We have had an example of what CARE is after CV-BS, The ones I have seen are straight out of UNI, with NO LIFE EXPERIENCE AT ALL.
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                                                                                                                      • very scary. Local authorities have too much control now with out having them interfering with how I live
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                                                                                                                        • My mum is 74 and has managed well without intervention. Maybe they should aim towards younger generations who don't suffer from water retention but takeaways retention.
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                                                                                                                          • Iam not aware of any such services but I do know rest homes and aged care facilities offer this but you have to pay a hefty amount.
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                                                                                                                            • The OZ GOV also offers Aged Care 'free' to help people stay in their homes for longer. ..
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                                                                                                                          • SCARY just more invasion of privacy and data collection by an entity that is probably not an authority in that particular field. What's wrong with the world where people want to be told how to do things and when to do them, the communists do not rule the world. Sounds like 1984 is coming true all be it 40 years later. I'm not a sheep like most of the world seems to be, I like to think for myself which is part of being free.
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                                                                                                                            • This is not Communism, people who have never lived under that rule .... THIS IS DEMOCRACY gone insane
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                                                                                                                          • Where is this I haven't hear anything about it?
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                                                                                                                            • Local authorities, I'd rather have experts in the field do this? And what is their privacy policy?
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                                                                                                                              • Hell NO, figure my own life thank you
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                                                                                                                                • Scary too much information given out that might get into the wrong hands
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                                                                                                                                  • Sounds way too intrusive to me. I'll take care of myself. No thank you to my local government. Go fill a pothole if you need to be helpful to me.
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                                                                                                                                    • We all know what is good for us and what is not. After many years on this planet I am sure we have learnt many things.
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                                                                                                                                      • thank you BUT NO THANK YOU
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                                                                                                                                        • I will pass on this question.
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                                                                                                                                          • Nosy pricks have nothing better to do but try and run your life
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                                                                                                                                            • Sorry but I'm a cynical skeptic. I'll pass.
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                                                                                                                                              • Yeah sometimes help can be a bit overwhelming
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                                                                                                                                                • It is a brilliant advertising strategy: 'We just want to take care of you.... honest!'. Do you 'trust' advertising?
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                                                                                                                                                • Sounds like a setup for a scam.
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                                                                                                                                                    • no thank-you
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                                                                                                                                                      • I don't trust it.
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                                                                                                                                                        • Confused
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                                                                                                                                                          • Is this a scam : ))
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                                                                                                                                                            • I hurt my back once and this young girl a physio in her 20's was telling me to do these exercises which were way beyond my capabilities or body. She said she could do them when she hurt her back. I said yep but you were 50 years younger than me also. I think they forget or do not realise as we age everything gets that little bit harder with arthritis, muscle deterioration. lack of mobility etc. I have not heard of this in Australia unless you mean Aged Care but with this they recommend stuff but you have to pay for it which is out of the question for many people and then often they say you can only have either/or.
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                                                                                                                                                              • It is not something I would ever become involved in. I guess there may be some people who would find it helpful.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Sounds a bit wierd as as many questions as you want
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                                                                                                                                                                  • love the jehovah witnesses they are very helpful drive each other around
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                                                                                                                                                                    • There are many religious organisations which help the elderly etc. There are many people either family or friends who can also help. However, there are people who slip through the systems and are left on their own and to their own devices. Sad but true.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • When I was young I had a good mate whose mother had totally lost the plot...I went round to see her and found she had an infestation of jehovah witnesses...they had been in there everyday...soon fixed that... poor old woman...she didn't need all that as well...and those pamphlets....yuck
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                                                                                                                                                                  • That will be the day I would let anyone analyze me. Our free will is being taken away. The local authorities can stay away. They just are trying to create more jobs that are not necessarily needed.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • how the hell can jobs that feed and pay bills not b needed what a wacko statement
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                                                                                                                                                                    • That is one way to look at it lin.
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                                                                                                                                                                  • That is scary. What State or Province do you live in? Our local authorities don't have the time to do that nor would I want them to. And it's quite a safe city.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • what about god religion
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                                                                                                                                                                      • tell us more David....
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                                                                                                                                                                      • tell us less
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