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To Work or Not to Work
lorna M01-Dec-22
Sometime point of your life you want to relax, feel the nature, eat buffet, and release or your stress, but when you think of your responsibility you have no choice but to work work... and work. But you have a toxic working environment, and you can't find a replacement job. So what you will do? Work or not to work?
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  • PH
    keep working and looking - unfortunately we need money -(not that workers get paid much compared to CEO's and companies)
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    • Marian J 834320
      You can still work but just change the job, if you can not find a job, and you have a few places were you can volunteer I am sure there is a few places that need help over Christmas, good luck.
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      • Flutterby
        Sometimes you just need to leave and hope for the best. Working in a toxic environment can cause lasting damage. Hope you find something else soon so you can get out of there.
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        • Rebecca B 614374
          Keep working until you can find another job that is much better and has a more pleasant working environment. There's not much other choice. The dole is not a good situation to be in. It is soul destroying and is barely enough these days for a mouse to live on, let alone a human being.
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          • Christina P 1042585
            Retired and enjoying life
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            • Priscilla R 316016
              These days, try a different career - there are plenty of jobs advertised and no business can get staff. But if you are my age, enjoy your retirement
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              • Paula J 395266
                The bible says if you don't work you don't eat. With 500000 job vacancies out there there is no reason for anyone not to have a job.
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                • Edith v
                  Depends on age.I would be ashamed to not work,it also depends on circumstances .I would do most lines of work to be able to pay my way.It is my self respect I treasure
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                  • Pauline J
                    I am retired and loving it work as nurse for last 20 years it was good job but now loving be retired
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                    • Glenys H 310155
                      keep looking for another job, try to upskill if possible to give yourself a better chance.
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                      • Raymond C 1127810
                        work coz i hate being lazy
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                        • Bugalugs
                          and if you give up your job what are you going to do for money to liver on? The amount of money you get in Unemployment Benefits is so small there is no way you can survive on it. Interestingly, our Politicians, all of whom have a Base Rate of Pay starting at $AU211,000 ($AU4057.69) per Week - compare that to less than $AU300 per week - with the PM, Ministers, Opposition Leaders and Shadow Ministers all getting anything from $AU300,000- to $AU600,000 and more - refuse to increase Unemployment Rates yet grant themselves an Automatic 3% Pay Rise every April! OK, so you loathe the job you have. Too bad, because unless you have the qualifications for the sort of interesting job you would like you have but two choices. One: Stay in that job and go to Night School and get the qualifications you need or Give up your job and starve.
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                          • Edith v
                            Envious !! you cannot make wage comparisons with politicians. Buying recklessly & wasting money instead of budgeting is a problem,how many people even cook their own meals,takeaway food businesses make big money. If possible even grow some of your food & swap with friends ,neighbours & even family.I could go on but I suggest talk with the seniors in the family ,1920's 1930'war times were very tough for them listen to them & heed the advice
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                        • Pat C 618241
                          If you know the alternative is to starve, you keep working. There are usually some enlivening moments, even if it's only having lunch or a drink with one of your work mates. In later years, some of those you work with may become your "best mates". Retirement on your own is the 'pits' - better to have others to share your grouses and glories later on in life.
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                          • DADS BOY
                            TO BE HONEST AND TRUE. IF YOU CAN NEVER FULLY RETIRE IT IS NOT WORTH IT.
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                            • Edith v
                              I retired at 71yrs & I am enjoying it .A housewife/homemaker never retires enjoy the leisure. We share lots of chores & love having the time to holiday,read & lots of hobbies we never had the time to do when working & raising a family
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                          • Shawn B 1061185
                            Since we as a social group have decided that you can't do anything without money, (except for panhandling and welfare), You've got to work. Try facing your terrible job with a smile on your face and your favorite fantasy on your mind. Plan on how you may find your dream job and go for it heart and soul. You never know. Maybe a jackpot is in your future?
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                            • Reva D
                              Unfoutunely got work or my bills wouldn't get paid.
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                              • Tiffany L 690503
                                Everything is way to hard
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                                • Edith v
                                  Why is it so hard Tiffany?
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                              • Marion M 82108
                                Unfortunately, reality is you need money thus you need to work until retirement age, whatever the work environment but definitely look for other work even if it means less money. Your health is number one priority.
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                                • Sabine V
                                  I'm too old and crippled to work
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                                  • Samiuella L
                                    Relax. Find a job you are passionate in and enjoy your abundant life without anything toxic interfering into your life.
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                                    • Fran M 1064096
                                      Look hard to find something you enjoy doing. Even if you must take a small cut in pay, when you like what you do it is never really work. You don't start the day or night feeling forced. You enjoy and others enjoy being around you. It is not easy to find that niche in life, but it is worth it. Sometimes it takes a while so do not become frustrated and settle, remember you're on a journey to something better.
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                                      • Michelle H 1122659
                                        Work and keep looking for something that is a better fit
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                                        • Christina C 466456
                                          Not worth working in a toxic place. Treat it as temporary and keep looking for another job.
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                                          • Denise C (Qld)
                                            I worked night shift for 4 plus years in a factory to provide private education for my family and I hated it but persevered because I knew it wouldnt be forever. So work is my answer.
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                                            • Barbara T
                                              I work on a casual basis as a 'lollipop lady', a support worker (as a sole trader) and do voluntary work which I intend to still do for at least another 4 years (I am 66) so I have plenty besides to keep myself occupied......have no desire to retire yet. My last two permanent part jobs (in Aged Care) were extremely toxic .....
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                                              • Carol S 657195
                                                Do not stay in a toxic environment. I did that because my husband said if I didn't work, we would love our house. I loved my job, but my boss had overloaded me to the point that I literally could no longer function! I spent 3 months in the psych ward of the local hospital. I did not want to deal with anything in my life, and my brain could not process a single thought. My husband talked to me, and I had no idea what he said. I knew the words, but my comprehension did not work! He literally had to take on everything while I was in the psych ward. It was horrible, and I haven't been able to work since. I am plagued with anxiety and have to stay very low key, had agoraphobia for several years and have to live life in slow motion to avoid stress! Don't let that happen to you!!! There is a way out. You just have to find it. The toxicity will affect you, your loved ones and everyone around you! If you have to cut back and find a lower-paying job, then that's what you have to do. We are not machines!
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                                                • Colin L 88398
                                                  Right now it is the easiest you'll find a job you want to be doing than ever before so look at something realistic and go and do it.
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                                                  • Paul B 522937
                                                    Get a job that not many want and you will never be out of work Try being a plumber I’ve always had work and everyone has to have wster
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                                                    • Paul B 522937
                                                      Do the relaxing when you retire. Simple
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                                                      • Barbara W 1117696
                                                        When I didn’t like my work, I spent every moment at home looking for one. Network, work on your resume, apply, apply, apply for jobs. You can take time off between jobs, but if you are finding it hard to find work, unless you have a very good safety net, don’t just stop work
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                                                        • Luv ur
                                                          But please try and look for a better job, for your wellbeing. Ask around, put it out there that you are looking to change positions. People can be a great resource if they know you're in need of some help, or a job change.
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                                                          • Jenny L 591463
                                                            I don't work any more, we live a very simple life. I knew a lady who did a lot of volunteering until she got hurt doing it, there was no help from the place she volunteered at and she then refused to do it any more. I guess some people want to help the less fortunate and be grateful for what they have and help out the needy when they can. Fund raising etc etc and that is honourable of them. If you can afford to retire, then retire and maybe do some volunteering or not. I don't firstly because I would have to travel too much and I prefer to be at home with our pets and enjoy them as much as possible. We moved to a less expensive place to live and we manage hubby is on a pension and we grow some of our own veggies etc keeps us going and gardening is very rewarding. Still eating pumpkin soup which we don't mind. I love the fact I don't have to work and I could if I wanted to but I don't want to for many reasons. Doing surveys and getting in a little extra cash helps or the Coles vouchers $50 we go and buy our pet food with them. It all helps and at the end of the day do what makes you happy.
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                                                            • Pennye R
                                                              You have to continue working while looking for another job. You will always have those who don’t like you or vice versa, but you have to learn how to deal with those situations in a professional manner. Just focus on what you have to do in order to complete your job and get paid!
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                                                              • Luv ur
                                                                Everyone who works has felt the way you feel, I'm sure, but if you can't find a better job for your wellbeing, you just have to keep plugging on. Unless you have someone else to pay the bills. Sometimes, circumstances stink and we just have to endure.......
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                                                                • Doina A
                                                                  absolutely not in a toxic environment, the life is tooo short and there are so many things that you can do and see and live for, so if you can survive without that salary , do not go there anymore. you never know what other kind of 'covid' is coming next year.....
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                                                                  • Michelle 76159
                                                                    I would go crazy not working. I need to work to keep food on the table and enjoy a relatively comfortable lifestyle
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                                                                    • Don T 805693
                                                                      Work but remember why you are doing it. To provide for you and your family.
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                                                                      • JANN R
                                                                        I THINK I WOULD GO CRAZY IF I DIDNT WORK EVEN IF ITS PART TIME AND MAKE A LITTLE EXTRA MONEYTO LIVE ON
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                                                                        • Patricia P 1104241
                                                                          Work
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                                                                          • clifford s
                                                                            at 84 i love my paid partime job and never ever sick in 23 yrs
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                                                                            • Judith R 800071
                                                                              So much to do and see when you are not working. Being on the pension does help with this freedom
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                                                                              • Andrea F 1069134
                                                                                Few year ago my work place dissolved. I brought a caravan rented my house out and ended up living and traveling taking jobs here and there. I made it work for a couple of years until I needed to come home as my parents were ailing and needed to spend time with them. I have a new plan in a few years (when I am freehold) to do this again, this time in a motor home. Planning on not having to work next time.
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                                                                                • Lyn 78550
                                                                                  It depends on the individual. I personally loved work and still do an occasional day. Wish I could do more. It is stimulating however not everyone feels like this Your choice entirely and if you have enough money to survive Iorna.
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                                                                                  • Greg B 520364
                                                                                    Being made redundant at 66 years young. You are not left with a lot of choice
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                                                                                    • Neil B 70318
                                                                                      Well I have just about reached my retirement age probably next year
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                                                                                      • Alabimmer
                                                                                        I guess I am not good enough with money and people to not work. So for me, an introvert, it’s work or die
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                                                                                        • Daniel A 2
                                                                                          Life with out work, does pass a lot faster. So is that worse? Continue working for that reason. and then you'll be angry when you find out that you've been a slave of the banks for all these years, still with human society work is still neccessarry even with out money.
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                                                                                          • Lyn A.
                                                                                            Depends on age and what responsibilities you have. If you are young and have no other you need money for. Work and save long enuf to take an overseas trip [backpacking/work away type trip] get to see other cultures and life styles. Or if need be even do it in your own country
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                                                                                            • Sonya F 68771
                                                                                              we all have to work to save money when you have enough retire and enjoy it
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                                                                                              • Daniel T 626103
                                                                                                While you work save money till you have enough to quit.
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                                                                                                • Mary M 329762
                                                                                                  I don't like my work place i was bullets to be covid vaccination but now let no covid vaccination back to work. Evenone start later me all got day work eve live close to work place. I had night. I have no friends at work. The way i think i go to work get pay and go home. Put more money in super so hope i can go out workplace at 60s. But sad i knows many unemployment live a better life i do. Saying free money and government own her being divorce
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                                                                                                  • Mandi H 1110314
                                                                                                    You work!!
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                                                                                                    • Maria B 89860
                                                                                                      If I want provide a roof over our head and food on the table for my family what other choice is there but the dreaded four letter word W-O-R-K! Even now being retired for a few years still churning out the Surveys, some 1cent at a time!!! Over to the Next Question!
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                                                                                                      • The dog house
                                                                                                        If it is affecting you mentally it might be wise to find another job.
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                                                                                                        • Sheree T
                                                                                                          I would rather work you are financially better off.
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                                                                                                          • roger l 315504
                                                                                                            been there, done that, Fortunately I've been retired for a few years and can now ''choose' where I work as a volunteer, Plenty of interactions, always busy. Love it. Beats the hell out of pushing peas uphill with your nose to the grindstone
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                                                                                                            • Mr White
                                                                                                              This is a no brainer - NOT Work like Dolly Parton said Take this JOB & shove it - I don't work her anymore. Life is peppermint to be enjoyed as you only get 1 shot at it. Work to live NOT Live to work. Save & live within your means,.......
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                                                                                                              • Dada WA
                                                                                                                No work - no money. So who pays to keep you and your family? As you said no choice but to work.
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                                                                                                                • Craig O 339797
                                                                                                                  Do you need to eat?
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                                                                                                                  • Colleen B 954270
                                                                                                                    I have Retired, financially a disaster. I am much happier with this life style
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                                                                                                                    • Grommie
                                                                                                                      sit down and do work/no work budgets. The no work option may surprise you.
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                                                                                                                      • Elizabeth A 807208
                                                                                                                        Keep looking for another job - there must be something else you can do and if you keep looking one will turn up. As Jeanine said begin to pray- put your faith out there and watch God move on your behalf
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                                                                                                                        • Jania S
                                                                                                                          GROW UP.. Everyone reaps what they sow,
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                                                                                                                          • Jeanine R
                                                                                                                            Wow that is a hard one my husband has that issue with a shoulder issue but he needs to work and I do what I can and I also pray as was mentioned for sure good luck all
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                                                                                                                            • Carolina Z
                                                                                                                              work or dole...look for another job while continuing with the odd toxic one...pray for guidance, it always helps. I promise you.
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                                                                                                                              • Tupulua S
                                                                                                                                work parttime
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                                                                                                                                • Beverly I
                                                                                                                                  If you need the money you could try to stick it out as long as possible, but try to find another job.
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                                                                                                                                  • Marietta M
                                                                                                                                    If you're single and responsible for only yourself and have enough money saved up, then take a break and decide what's next. If you have kids to support, then you owe it to them to stick it out, because they have to come first.
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                                                                                                                                    • lin r
                                                                                                                                      SOME THAT QUIT IN USA R NOW HAVING A PROBLEM GETTING HIRED
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                                                                                                                                  • kristian s 513441
                                                                                                                                    I don't work is because I am on disability
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                                                                                                                                    • Karen S 841350
                                                                                                                                      That's a tough one Lorna. A toxic working environment is no good for your mental health. If you are able to reduce your hours then do so. I know that if you quit your job then there is a big stand down for a benefit and getting onto a benefit after working isn't easy as people say. Maybe use up your Annual leave and look for a replacement job, It maybe financially harder but probably better for your mental health overall
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                                                                                                                                      • roy t 801411
                                                                                                                                        retire
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                                                                                                                                        • Talina P 1117039
                                                                                                                                          Work until I’m stable, then quit and look for new job
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                                                                                                                                          • Roy R 1009866
                                                                                                                                            To survive, support yourself and be a contributing member of society you must work. These days, much which are much different then when I was starting to support myself back in the 80"s, if you have a problem or and issue with the way your supervisor, boss or employer is treating you there are ways to resolve this issue, legally. Before quitting your job look into all of your options and get some independent person to look at your situation.
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                                                                                                                                            • Pauline S/NZ
                                                                                                                                              Keep working, keep looking
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                                                                                                                                              • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                                                                                                                                                never been in your situation - still - it sounds like it is time to converse with the significant other in your life - and the two of you - make a 'joint' decision based on facts (not emotions)
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                                                                                                                                                • 77ccusmc
                                                                                                                                                  Work it builds character and self esteem. You can manager your work environment if you enjoy the work you will be ok. If you don’t enjoy the work go back to school and learn a new trade that you enjoy.
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                                                                                                                                                  • teresa D 1115253
                                                                                                                                                    Work. I enjoy nice things.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Linda C
                                                                                                                                                      You work to earn the money to eat, put a roof over your head, pay the bills etc. Yes some jobs are horrible but most people I know or knew never liked their jobs. It was just essential and a part of being a responsible adult. If you don't want to work because of some selfish reason or you are just lazy then one cannot expect the taxpayer to assist you during this time.
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                                                                                                                                                      • Squirrelsmo
                                                                                                                                                        Keep working until something comes along. Be looking at job boards, sign up is easy and online, Indeed is a great place! Apply for jobs that you think that you would really like to do, a hobby of yours, that way maybe the environment won't seem toxic to you. A lazy person can't do anything but beg/bum...
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                                                                                                                                                        • Tina 423889
                                                                                                                                                          work and continue looking for something else
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                                                                                                                                                          • mike B 1066235
                                                                                                                                                            LIFE IS NOT LIKE WHAT AT ALL /WE ALL WORK AND TRY TO IMPROVE OUR LIFE.OR SIT ON YOUR ASS AND WATCH THE WORLD PASS YOU BY
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                                                                                                                                                            • Rhonda D 522615
                                                                                                                                                              Depends on if you need the money. Learn to block things out of your mind. You will be surprised what you can tolerate.
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                                                                                                                                                              • Squirrelsmo
                                                                                                                                                                I can't think of anyone, other than small babes and children that don't need money, but it still gets used on them.
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                                                                                                                                                              • Rhonda D 522615Squirrelsmo
                                                                                                                                                                I meant if there was savings, pension, 401K, etc.
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                                                                                                                                                            • APB
                                                                                                                                                              Yes
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