Discussion of the Day
Friendship vs. Business
Marietta M20-Jun-23
I saw a TV show where a woman owned a business and her executive assistant was offered another job and when she found out it was a friend of hers who made the offer, she felt betrayed, but the friend said it was just a good business move, and had nothing to do with their friendship.
Is that the right attitude? Should business deals, hiring/firing, corporate takeovers, whatever, be made regardless of who the people involved are, even if it's family or friends?
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  • Paul W 383502
    No.
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    • Tavi
      This is always a difficult scenario!
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      • Pennye R
        Friendship and business’s do not usually mix well. You should never hire your friends; often they will expect favoring treatment which will lead to unnecessary conflict.
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        • Gemma G 943944
          No. If you're human you should always be a human.
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          • JANET R 328390
            I definitely do not agree with this woman. It sounds to me also like she just went behind her friend's back. On the other hand it also appears to me that she could be a person to be well rid of. Does not sound like someone the owner should be trusting. I would be very hurt myself. To me it is a bit like ex partners that get involved with other family members. NO WAY I SAY. I personally would be very cool towards this woman and I would look for someone who I could trust. I wish her very best wishes and I hope she finds someone else she can TRUST.
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            • Rebecca B 614374
              I do think it's rather rude that there was no discussion prior to the offer being made. Business is one thing, but nobody gets anywhere by treading on other's toes, so to speak, and especially where close relationships are involved.
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              • Katzeye
                Out of respect for her friend and their valued friendship her intentions should of been discussed first so the friend did not feel betrayed because it sounds to me that the business woman just went behind her friends back and friends don't do that.
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                • Justine 1330102
                  I think consideration of relationship should be taken into account. At the very least the friend should have spoken with her first
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                  • Valerie S 478525
                    Might be good business but not good friendship. She should have told her friend she was going to make the offer.
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                    • Bev
                      Do what you are happy with. Nothing to do with friendship.
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                      • Val B 69099
                        Never mix business with friendship it will always go sour
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                        • Katzeye
                          Agree!
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                      • Edith v
                        .It was not "good" business .The attitude of the "friend"is not ethical .I can accept that business is cut throat but a friend is a friend ..I would say good bye to the so called friend & hope she regrets being so underhanded
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                        • JANET R 328390
                          Totally agree.
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                      • Brian L 387567
                        Pam said, "Never mix business with friendships, quick way to lose friends." My idea is "Never mix business with friendships, quick way to lose profits."
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                        • Kirsty H 1016139
                          Unfortunately its like that. To be successful in business, you will step on others to get ahead from time to time! A good friendship should be priority though..a day a heads up " I would like to offer your PA a position me at $x amount. So you can then decide if you would like to keep your PA and pay them what they are wirth, or wish them well and rehire!!
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                          • Pat C 618241
                            Glad that all that is beyond me now. I never believed my work "friends" would have hesitated if they could take my job for their profit.
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                            • IdentifyAs
                              Shows how good or bad the relationship is
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                              • Phyrephly
                                someone said once, and I think it holds a good deal of truth, that if businesses, were people, those 'people' would be considered to be psychopaths.
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                                • Pamela G
                                  Good saying.
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                              • Stephiny O
                                Hmmm
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                                • Pam G 449028
                                  Never mix business with friendships, quick way to lose friends.
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                                  • Robert T 597718
                                    Dear Marirtta I would advise that friendship is a rare thing in business
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                                    • Daniel A 2
                                      Don't ask me?
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                                      • Darren S 116121
                                        As they say,there are no friends in business
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                                        • Ernie 67
                                          It could be sneaky but I'm not sure
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                                          • Christine M 323842
                                            No it is definitely not the right attitude. It is sneaky and underhanded. Friends are open and honest with each other and look out for one another’s best interests. Saying “ it’s just business’ is a total cop out.
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                                            • JANET R 328390
                                              totally agree.
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                                          • Colin L 88398
                                            Yes it is a great business move poaching staff who ae good always has been.
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                                            • Jeanine R
                                              I really think that business and friendship are a bad mix. I do think that if the business move in this instance was good business than that is okay, Business owners have to make business decisions regardless of feelings.
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                                              • Jenny L 591463
                                                I guess it depends on the friendship, where is the loyalty and today this is what is missing in society. Who wants some one who will stab you in the back and leave you for dead on the side of the road. Some one who could do that is not a true friend. This also goes for clubs and their players as there just is no loyalty any where and it doesn't matter but truely I think it does. I wouldn't shop with a company if I knew they had taken over another company by taking it over. Selling a company is different to a take over and surely this is just done for pure profit and greed.
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                                                • Gunter L
                                                  Attitude??? Who cares about attitude? Business is business and friendship is friendship, and never the twain shall meet.
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                                                  • Roslyn A
                                                    Hmmm...I know business can be dirty but I think that's going against friendship. Pick another friend.
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                                                    • Jan H 753322
                                                      I don't know
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                                                      • Greg B 520364
                                                        I would have told my friend that I was interested in the employee before making the offer.
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                                                        • Larry S 382961
                                                          Not sure on that
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                                                          • Shawn B 1061185
                                                            “ALL” business is personal to somebody. When somebody tells you who they are, by their actions, you should believe them. Anyone who relies on the adage “it’s only business” cannot be trusted in any circumstance. They will stab you in the back at their first opportunity. Interpersonal respect and dignity has been thrown out the window by the people who worship at the feet of “business.” Remember the golden rule: Do to others what you would like them to do to you.
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                                                            • Louisa W
                                                              No idea on that one.
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                                                              • Liane H
                                                                In that instance yes she should . The friend was undercutting her ,going behind her back and essentially headhunting / stealing her prime staff member. As others have have mentioned though and I agree with ,any employee or friend that wants to move on and do better financially well I always wish them the best ( as long as they've done the right things by me along the way ) I'm not business minded though and the cut throat ladder stepping world is not one I've ever been a fan of.
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                                                                • Stephen Q
                                                                  Yes it's just one person's point of view. It's a heart verses conscience some people are rules but there heart and have a conscience and others know in time well all be dead so why do the right thing.
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                                                                  • Dusan 1329983
                                                                    One must realize that business rarely mixes well with friendships or family.
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                                                                    • Paula J 395266
                                                                      You can't mix business and friendship because sooner or later someone will get hurt feelings.
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                                                                      • Jania S
                                                                        Without all the details, there is no valid opinion. This happens all the time, for different reasons, maybe the other business had something the current business didn't, and business decisions have nothing to do with friendship, and why be affected by something on a TV Show?
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                                                                        • Tiffany L 690503
                                                                          Everything must remain separate if an business is to survive
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                                                                          • Mary M 329762
                                                                            Up to the person. End of the day this is business and if you want to keep your workers pay them a good wages to be in your business.
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                                                                            • Manel 1271300
                                                                              Yes! Business should be strictly business, it can’t survive on friendships and relationships.
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                                                                              • Vida B
                                                                                Business and Friendship do not mix especially if it gets romantic.
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                                                                                • Roy R 1009866
                                                                                  Who can answer a question as complicated as this?
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                                                                                  • Christine 1296712
                                                                                    You would have to support your friend and their choice
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                                                                                    • Sheree T
                                                                                      If someone else can give them better opportunities or the person would like to change their job, then I would be happy for them, there are always other people who are seeking employment.
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                                                                                      • Igor A
                                                                                        People make friendships and alliances. Then they make new ones and break the old ones. Story a million years old.
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                                                                                        • The dog house
                                                                                          If someone is offered more money they will jump at it. Most of us would do this. It makes it harder if they are your friends or family.
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                                                                                          • JANN R
                                                                                            I dont know what to think but the worker may have been looking for something different to what she was doing and maybe better pay
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                                                                                            • Nanda K
                                                                                              Lots of stories in the history that says good friends are did business together. But two types of friends in the world. They are good friend (Kalyana Mitta) and bad friend (Pæpa Mitta). If good friends are with you no issues for any budiness .
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                                                                                              • Chosen
                                                                                                Money talks.
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                                                                                                • Christina D
                                                                                                  Maybe the the friend who feels betrayed should ask herself what her friend is offering that she isn't. There must be something that has made the offer so tempting
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                                                                                                  • Teri 1282723
                                                                                                    I've had several people leave where I worked and I was always happy for them. Whether for better pay, better hours, the new place worked with her home life for scheduling, whatever the reason this person was leaving, I was always proud of them and happy for them. Going somewhere else on your own terms and not staying where you're not happy because you feel tied to a company - or got fired, is the way to do it. Don't feel slighted because someone got a chance for a step up in their life. Are you upset with your friend when he breaks up with someone you liked? Or are you happy that he moved on and found someone who is a better partner for him? I say you be happy and proud for him. Same for any business relationship:)
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                                                                                                    • Michael T 852307
                                                                                                      Providing the businesses are not competing then there is no issue of IP transfer and if the employee responded to an advertisement there was no head hunting so in my view the act is acceptable. However if they are competing and the IP potentially transferred then the first employer should have had the employee contracted with a non-compete and non-disclosure clause.
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                                                                                                      • Angela W 1090065
                                                                                                        Business is business. I can relate
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                                                                                                        • Luv ur
                                                                                                          Always keep work separate from home, friends, hobbies......you name it. They are all their separate entities, for this very reason. No reason to crossover areas of your life that are only going to end up messed up, by blending them. Keep each area of your life separate and you don't have to worry about problems cross contaminating different aspects of your day to days. It's really simple......DO NOT COMPLICATE THINGS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE.
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                                                                                                          • Elizabeth T 396096
                                                                                                            Irrelevant. At the end of the day, if the person was happy they would have stayed. If the person was so important to the business, then a proper counteroffer should be made and if it is rejected then the person never wanted to be there and was just there until they got a better job/other job.
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                                                                                                            • Danielle R 478487
                                                                                                              Never been in that position. I have had many friends I have met through work as we work well together as part if a team. Basis of mutual respect and commonality,sense of humour. At the end if the day ,your there to do a job,thankfully it's not an issue I have had to deal with.
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                                                                                                              • Diana
                                                                                                                I always put family and friends first
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                                                                                                                • Helen E 469767
                                                                                                                  I agree family and friends come first.
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                                                                                                              • jeffrey t 1083827
                                                                                                                Always look after oneself first
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                                                                                                                • Tere D
                                                                                                                  Too often today Values and Ethics are LEFT OUT, It seems Greed and control are What motivates Big business, SAD When that happens locally in business, REMEMBER U LIVE with these people.
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                                                                                                                  • Maree B 85308
                                                                                                                    Many successful business people sell their soul for the allmighty dollar (nothing new there). Its not the words you say that count but what you feel in your heart. The person in the example has no idea what true friendship is, but i imagine is probably very wealthy.
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                                                                                                                    • Craig S 1050522
                                                                                                                      I think there is probably more this. Are they business friends or personal friends? Did the EA apply for the job or was she head hunted? If the EA has applied for the job then the friend can not just go tell her friend (Privacy issues and think of the issues for the EA). If the friend has decided to tell her that her EA has applied for a job with her company and she has offered the job to the EA I can not see an issue with that. Better still I would have thought the EA would have come back and told her anyway and why she was taking the job.
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                                                                                                                      • Lee b 979050
                                                                                                                        You get a 1000 points for this? Keep your friends close keep your enemies closer
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                                                                                                                        • Norman PSBHRJ
                                                                                                                          TV Show, This is a converstion that is just plain silly. I'm sure Rewardia has better topic to be putting on here. But hey, she got 1000 points.
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                                                                                                                          • SueM2
                                                                                                                            It was a TV show.....
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                                                                                                                            • pam rae
                                                                                                                              ty Lin, have a good day...
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                                                                                                                              • Christina C 466456
                                                                                                                                Depends. If she enticed then took the personal assistant from her friend then that's pretty stink. If the employee left independently and happened to be the best candidate then that's just business. Personally I'd never mix family or friends or partners with work because it's more stressful and can break relationships. Business decisions have to be for the betterment of the business (impersonal) while relationship decisions are personal. It's best not to mix the two.
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                                                                                                                                • Judy CooplandiaQueen
                                                                                                                                  Humm
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                                                                                                                                  • Barbara H 1073102
                                                                                                                                    The saying goes, "It is not personal just business."
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                                                                                                                                    • Michelle 1281734
                                                                                                                                      Just not a good idea to mix both
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                                                                                                                                      • Lance P 1114997
                                                                                                                                        Never trust friends or family to go into business with, someone will get there feelings hurt along the way.
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                                                                                                                                        • Susan R 1248787
                                                                                                                                          I would have stayed unless I really needed more money. I would explain this to my friend.
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                                                                                                                                          • BLACK LIVES MATTER
                                                                                                                                            BUSINESS is where 'FRIENDSHIP' comes to an early, ugly DEMISE!
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                                                                                                                                            • pam rae
                                                                                                                                              no, never
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                                                                                                                                              • Mariaj
                                                                                                                                                Alot of people build up friendships with who they work with anyway. A true friend would be happy for their friend to get ahead and do better in life, even if sad for not seeing them everyday anymore
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                                                                                                                                                • kristian s 513441
                                                                                                                                                  I think friendship and business do not mix is because money can big effect on the friendship in the long run especially if is money involve.
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                                                                                                                                                  • Robert F 1161011
                                                                                                                                                    If I were the employee, and the boss's friend offered me a job, I would most likely turn down the offer, or figure out a way to work for both of them. I'm not a business man.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Kim W 386150
                                                                                                                                                      TOPIC ...the faster you d word search you never get points..for me it always says an error occured and after a minute or two no points but the members who do it in 10 seconds ..get rewarded..so whos the bot???
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                                                                                                                                                      • Cynthia D 1209850
                                                                                                                                                        Never good idea
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                                                                                                                                                        • PETER M 134659
                                                                                                                                                          FRIENDSHIP. BUSINESS CAN WAIT.
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                                                                                                                                                          • Paul B 522937
                                                                                                                                                            Never mix work with pleadure
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                                                                                                                                                            • david j t
                                                                                                                                                              rustlers the religious screw thy neighbour how do we protect ourselves
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                                                                                                                                                              • Amy B 1078427
                                                                                                                                                                If you were a good friend I don’t think you would do that to your friend
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                                                                                                                                                                • Kathy 1270954
                                                                                                                                                                  The friend who made the offer should have informed the woman. That would have been the decent thing to do.
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Catharina 1274733
                                                                                                                                                                    Should disregards and think this is business.
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