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Post Covid Plans
EILEEN W 31055608-Sep-21
While we in Australia wonder if we dare make any plans, I really want to travel again as my time on this Earth is running out. I especially want to return to Bali and get my little volunteer school up and running again and maybe one last trip to England where I was born. What dreams or plans do you have?
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  • Gladys from NSW claims that covid will be around for another few years. Gee, that's very positive of her! I must say, she does inspire hope in her people.! I wish the idiot would resign. She's a phony, pretending to be a leader, how sad!
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    • Travel to see my family.
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      • As we live in WA we are a liitl3 fortunate to have the state cut off from most others but overseas travel is out but MargaretvRiver a good optin that is if you can get a booking .we do enjoy visiting the local wineries in the area and tasting the great wines of 5hevarea.
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        • To be able to spend time with my family and friend And most of all to be able to see and hug my great grand son for the first time
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          • I plan to get into politics to bring down the current governments and their corporate and main stream media puppet masters,a lot of sheeple voted these idiots in and it is time these idiots paid for treating us as collateral damage in their games that has half the world in a carefully manipulated fear while they get away with their man made flus and the genocidal fake vaccines that go along with it. this is not theory anymore the truth is coming out.
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            • Visit with my sisters, brother and my grand daughter
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              • I have always had travel anxiety so no such plans but i just want my daughter to have any opportunities she wants to be able to explore the world again.I had a shortlived relief when we got vaccinated that it was all over re catching covid and though of course am grateful that the vaccine may protect the severity i no longer feel safe. With my husband being in a care facility i thought the vaccine meant no more worry- but it hasn't- everything still locked down- of course to protect them. But it all feels depressing- i am still fearing what on earth will happen if the virus hits our city and gets into his place. Whoops- just realized i was ranting and gone way off track. To sum up quickly- my dream is for this to be over!!!!
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                • im getting on and i would like to see my mum in the uk once more
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                  • see family and friends within Australia
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                    • I think they said they were going to open up travel again at the end of the year, just before Christmas. So I don't think it's too far away. Can start planning. Probably need to be vaccinated though.
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                      • See family & friends we haven't seen in a while.
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                        • Continue my first holiday to Europe and England as I had to cancel all my bookings.
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                          • Travel plans overseas are on hold, since don't want to go into MIQ & have not only a great inconvenience but a high chance of getting Delta Covid. Looking forward to socializing with friends, seeing plays & musicals once we're out of Level 4.
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                            • I think our plans are dependent on how the economy recovers.
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                              • None at all as I hate to travel.
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                                • My plans are to be safe and healthy ,if I travel it shall be only around NZ ??
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                                  • I'm not game enough last time I traveled I left Tasmania and they locked up. I then went to ACT and when I left they locked it up. So all of this lockup was brought about my travel plans. I have not traveled since March 2020
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                                    • How ironic it is that some on here sprout about climate change, and yet, they are the first to complain that they can't go overseas. I think there a few fibbers on here who are just lying. Even if they aren't they can't complain about climate change when Overseas travel adds to the toxic air pollution. So, suck it up!
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                                      • Yes, have travel withdrawal symptoms my friend and I go away every year and now it is coming up 2 years. I realize we are very fortunate to have been to most places but running out of time, there is still a lot of the world to see. Had plans to go to Japan or Greece next year but who knows what's ahead. Hoped to take granddaughters to Disneyland but don't think that is going to happen before I leave this earth. :(
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                                        • xx
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                                      • I have no plans as yet to travel anywhere except in Australia, as there are many places in this amazing country that I haven't yet explored. I have done some overseas travel, but will not be planning anything for the foreseeable future due to covid. Will it ever go away? I don't really believe it will.
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                                        • Cannot wait to get back to my normal life of friends, family and eating out
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                                          • yes yes yes.
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                                        • No plans, who knows how long covid will still be a big factor? Nah, I got some overseas travel done the last 10 years. I'm perfectly fine to wait a long time to ever do any of that again...
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                                          • as of now we have no plans, hubby has been sick so we dont know where or what this will bring to us.
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                                            • I hate to be a party pooper, but people better turn off the programming box, and stupida fona. Out of 45 countries who have had FOI requests not one has isolated CV19, that includes USA, AUST, UK, etc. there is yearly flu. LOCKDOWN WILL only end when people get and education and realise you have been HAD, The "ALIENS" have made the yearly flu into a non existant CV19 as described. OBVIOUSLY about 50% of world dont know they have an immune system that has protected the world for centuries, and is still protecting .... If you check Sweden no lockdown, treated population as adults and no VAX no more sickness than any other year, ISRAHELL is onto 4th booster shot. CHECK with the website of all the supposed vax manufacturers and find they only make gene editing experiments. THEN WEEP for the lost 18+ months, because the WESTERN countries will go to the grave getting booster shots every year if not more often, and the human will end up and a trans??? whatever the WEF, WHO, and UN SUSTAINABLE Development DEMONS whant to do to you.
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                                              • That's only your opinion. A deluded one.
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                                              • Well I survived measles as a kid, and that was bad. Much worse than the flu. You are right! I can never catch that Virus ever again. Why? Cause I've got immunity!
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                                              • 2025Cat8
                                                It's no delusion. It's a fact! Please go look it up? The body produces a memory of instructions to the body. It knows when you have been infected by a virus. People that have other bad viruses know this. If you haven't then you would not even know!
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                                              • I "hope" you are right - a deluded one - she is not totally deluded. Hope you have done a lot of independent investigating and not just relied on the News and a Government that has lied to us about safe these vaccines are!!!!
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                                              • Cat8JANET R 328390
                                                yes I have. The science is sound, however if you fall for the conspiracy narrative, you'd have to really ask yourself why.
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                                              • mary cJANET R 328390
                                                People in ICU and hosp in our country at the moment- ie the sickest ones with Covid- are those who haven't been vaccinated in the majority.
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                                              • unbelievable is all I can say to that Jania S
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                                              • 2025mary c
                                                There have been some die despite being VACCED, Mary. So don't get your hopes up too high. It's not a conspiracy to doubt the Vaccine.
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                                              • Jania S you are not deluded or alone in your thoughts there you are brave to speak them, we still have freedom of speech even if main stream media and governments try to ban it. Keep up your research and keep speaking it the truth will come out sooner than later. It is no longer a theory, it is a CONspiracy. We are not denying a nasty virus, it is real, a real man made manipulated virus that leaked from Chinese labs funded from a fair whack of American dollars. Truth not theory now go and do your own research my friends it is there to be found and get out of your glass houses, sheeple, before you call us deluded!
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                                              • Mary, I'm very sorry to burst your bubble, but Jania is spot on. Those "non vaccinated " people in hospital are the ones vaccinated with a vaccine that's NOT a vaccine but is a gene therapy nano technology clot shot. I'll explain: if you have a vaccine, which I'm going to refer to by its proper designation, a clot shot, and you die at one of the shot clinics of anaphylaxis due to the polyethylene glycol which they just injected into you if you took the Pfizer jab, then your death will be classed either as a "vaccine reaction " but much more likely as a "death in a non vaccinated person". If you go home from the clinic and die within 72 hours then your likely cause of death will be "Covid in a non vaccinated person ". If the ambos come and they take you to hospital because you had a reaction, and there are MILLIONS out there in this category, then you will be noted as being a NON vaccinated person ". You see, IF you become sick or die within 2 weeks of having taken the shot you WILL be documented as being a NON vaccinated person! The way they get around this is to say that as it hasn't been 14 days since you took it then you haven't had time to build up any antibodies, not that that makes an ounce of difference. So the people being discussed on TV by these "reporters", who are just a bunch of liars being paid to say what they say, are actually IN the hospitals they told you they were in, and not all of those being interviewed are actually who they say they are or receiving treatment at all, THOSE hospitalised "cases" are shot reactions CAUSED by the CLOT SHOT! If you make the "symptoms" the SAME as the side effects of the "treatment" then you can tell the public WHATEVER you like and they'll go along with it. There are 1000's of Doctors, Researchers, Scientists and Economists who are screaming at the top of their lungs for people to hear them and trying to tell you that all this was planned and organised years in advance but they are not allowed on TV as the perception has to be that these shots are safe and effective, but experts in cardiac medicine and scientists who spent years working for these drug companies are calling for it to be taken off the market because for one thing, it doesn't work! In October 2020 the John's Hopkins Hospital hosted Event 201 which was discussing how the world would cope if a novel chimeric Coronavirus travelled out of a lab and infected the world! Sound familiar. THIS lockdown and tyranny isn't going anywhere and that shot you got because you thought you were being part of the solution just made you more of the problem because now YOU are spreading the disease with the spike protein inside you which you will continue to make ad vinitum! I, an unvaccinated person, am worried about YOU, because I'm not sick and I'm not spreading ANYTHING but you ARE and you're transmitting those spike proteins to everyone you meet including pregnant women and babies which you should IMMEDIATELY remove yourself from or else you just raised their miscarriage and stillbirth rates hugely because YOU fell for the joke! You aren't going anywhere and neither am I and there's a whole lot of death coming around soon. You're probably a nice person but the more of these shots you take the sicker you'll get until it kills you or the PRION Dx does. I apologise for my tone but you and everyone else who has fallen for the propaganda, and it's good, has just given those Elites the power to keep getting increasing numbers which they need in order to continue to keep everyone locked in their homes. I have people I love that I might never see again and that hurts, but tyranny doesn't look too much like what it is in the beginning, but just like a frog who doesn't know he's being boiled alive In the beginning, so we who TRUST these lying bastards ruling over us, don't give a damn! Just wait and I'll be proved right. Sorry.
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                                              • Oh if only she WAS deluded, but unfortunately she's not! Sorry.
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                                              • You're right Jania, 100%, but unfortunately many won't see how restrained they are until the barbed wire fences are a LL around them. My father keeps saying it will get better. I tell him " it will only get worse! It WILL get worse. Thanks for having the courage to write that and take care now.
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                                              • Cat8malcolm 516503
                                                deluded.
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                                              • Cat8Michelle S 553303
                                                Totally deluded.
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                                              • mary cMichelle S 553303
                                                I'm not sure i follow your first sentence that the non vaccinated people in hospital here in NZ are in fact vaccinated. And also i don't agree that our reporters are actors. All good though we can agree to disagree. A lengthy reply not required. Take care :)
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                                            • I want to travel to Taiwan and revisit Japan again
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                                              • Just want my daughter to be able to come home from melbourne
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                                                • Yes travel here and overseas
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                                                  • It will be good when lockdown ends, the biggest difference will be that hubby and i will be able to finally start a serious search for our forever home. This will be our first home, and i am really looking forward to it becoming a reality. I have no desire to travel abroad, not even interstate for the foreseeable future. I just want to get a home, settle in and get my gardens growing and start up a small business selling my hand knit items.
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                                                    • I want to visit relatives in Melbourne and maybe later on family living overseas.
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                                                      • You just have to deal with it .It is what it is sorry.
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                                                        • Just to go to Boston again
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                                                          • travel again maybe to England to visit my brother and a cruise
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                                                            • Eileen, you can actually come to Bali right now.. The Indonesian government s not stopping you. Your problem will be getting out of the penal colony that currently has all Australians locked up. I had friends fly in from Australia recently and have others flying down there on the 18th of this month. Despite what the Australian media is telling you, life is pretty well normal here. We just went for breakfast at Retro restaurant in the main street of Sanur and I will be meeting friends at La Playa on the beach at noon.
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                                                              • Yes Indonesia is certainly on the improve and has had only 137,156 Covid deaths. Ummmmmmm
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                                                              • I will assume you have no idea of what is really happening here. As an example, do you know anything about the government subsidy if deaths are reported as being from Covid? Look into that and you will be amazed.
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                                                            • Once we are able I am going cruising again - anywhere will do
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                                                              • I will travel again once things get back to normal and the covid19 cases are under control. It all depends on what countries will be opening their boarders to us.
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                                                                • My life will return to what it was before Covid-19 and include travel overseas.
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                                                                  • Life after Covid-19? I remember when Covid-19 first became a major issue in the news, commentators on Radio suggested that we would 'probably' look back on the Covid-19 situation some day and laugh at how incredible things became over a microscopic virus! I think it's important to remember that things here on Earth happen for a reason. With many improvements made on the health front, Life after the Covid-19 saga will be much better adept at handling virus situations. Life will be much more lively while at the same time systems will be in place to deal with viruses much better than in the past! :-)
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                                                                    • I may sound pessimistic but will there ever be post covid? I desperately want to see my daughter and grandson who lives on the other side of the world. I think covid is something we are going to have to live with and I honestly fear for future generations or hopefully they will be smarter and not cause these pandemics, who knows.
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                                                                      • ???? Yuk, inappropriate, self centred...
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                                                                        • We had plans to go to the Philippines for my wife’s 50th birthday but thanks to Covid that was canceled by the airline. So got credits but when can we go. That is the question. Can’t even travel in our own city,state or country so what hope have we got to go overseas.
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                                                                          • Soon as I can get on a plane, I’m outta here, don’t even care where at this point.
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                                                                            • haha- it might have to be a deserted desert island- or dessert island- that would be nice too!
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                                                                            • Either way, I’m up for it Mary :)
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                                                                            • mary cChristine M 323842
                                                                              hehe- er can i bring my wee doggie please.
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                                                                            • Sure, I’ll bring mine too. Dogs are always welcome around me!
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                                                                            • mary cChristine M 323842
                                                                              Yay..thats all we need. well them and a decent supply of chocolate.
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                                                                          • Its too hard to make plans at the moment. Already had a grand daughter's wedding postponed twice and I think a third on the way. Just to get back to "normal" in 2022 will be great. Beyond that is unknown.
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                                                                            • No plans yet but it will be travel with liberal lashings of travel….lol
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                                                                              • I hope you like adding to pollution then?
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                                                                            • the only thing that I'm concentrating on in the future is to keep breathing, it seems that presuming to increase my anxiety by making plans (and establishing expectations) is somewhat premature given the way politicians have made the path forward stupidlly and excessively pokitical. I really feel that our elected leaders should lead instead of just spouting sound bites and bickering
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                                                                              • regret I believe it may be many years to the recovery of any type of real life
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                                                                                • CANCELLED WEDDING CANCELLED CELEBRATIONS FOR 21ST BIRTHDAY CANCELLED TRAVEL WE WILL DO THEM ALL WHEN WE HAVE THE ALL CLEAR LEVEL 2 IN NZ BUT NO BORDERS OPENED YET BETTER TO SAFE THAN SORRY
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                                                                                  • I am booked to go back to Bali as soon as the door opens
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                                                                                    • We have a bucket list, we were 3/4 of the way through it. Now we probably won't get to do the rest. At 78 and 89 unless we open up soon it will be too late for us to travel anywhere. We will however still try and do a few things, like another trip to Tasmania and Northern Territory. Roll on open borders.
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                                                                                      • I had a bucket list item - the Chelsea Garden Show but that was cancelled, holding credits for that. A trip to WA, that's been cancelled, holding credits until I don't know when and I won an award which gave a trip to New York but that can't happen. That's the "plans" - don't know when.
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                                                                                        • no plans
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                                                                                          • I dont have any plans as I am my mothers full time carer so cant plan to do anything she needs my help every day I think at 97 I would to
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                                                                                            • All the best, I am my husband's main carer. Just keeping them well is main priority.
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                                                                                            • JANN Rmary c
                                                                                              THANKS MARY YOU TO
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                                                                                            • mary cJANN R
                                                                                              Not easy xx
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                                                                                          • If I could travel overseas I don't think I would. The UK are 80% vaccinated and have hundreds of thousands of new cases a day with some tens of thousand odd deaths. No thanks I think we will just stay here and live life the best way we can. Be happy within ourselves.
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                                                                                            • I have I have my covid shots
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                                                                                              • I do not want to make any decisions yet. Who knows what else will become us.
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                                                                                                • None at this stage. Just waiting to see what happens as I can't see this going away any time soon. I'm sure the government will make sure of that.
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                                                                                                  • At my age I have little ambitions left so carry on as usual
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                                                                                                    • I read somewhere that if you have Blood type A...you are more at risk of Covid. I don't need to worry about family as I don't have one. Only got relatives
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                                                                                                      • I think we need to focus more on getting our house in order...so to speak! Update any will that you have. There is no guarantee any of us will still be here tomorrow. Covid is unpredictable. They are now saying that you will need to have a Vaccine passport to travel overseas.
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                                                                                                        • To start with I would like one big family party to make up for all the birthdays and other family events that were cancelled. That is for the immediate family. Then there is the large extended family. For them I would like one gigantic wake to make up for all the funerals that had to be cancelled.
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                                                                                                          • so many events we want to celebrate with our family once restrictions are lifted.Our granddaughters wedding had to be postponed in November last year-was going to be early November this year but doubt it now. Our 60th Wedding anniversary celebrations had to be cancelled this year. numerous grandchildren's birthdays were not able to be celebrated. over the years have traveled a lot but don't wish to do anymore. Just want to spend time with family and friends
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                                                                                                            • Mainly looking forward to not having to listen to the daily "air raid shelter" type bulletins about this wretched virus. Any other small steps forward will indeed be like a luxury item without costing a fortune or an arm and a leg. .
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                                                                                                              • I will go to the Philippines to see my charitable works established before I may pass on to the next world. Then visit relatives in USA & Austria & do a few more pilgrimages, God willing
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                                                                                                                • yes it's a difficult situation we are in because of covid lockdown, unfortunately, we can only wait and see and hope this will be all over soon. be well all you oldies out there. beware of the boogieman (covid )
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                                                                                                                  • For the time being I just want to be able to see my grandchildren because in the time I have left in this world I think I am losing time because of the restrictions.
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                                                                                                                    • We want to stay in Australia and just take our time traveling to see all the spectacular places that Australia has to offer. We wouldn't feel comfortable traveling on a plane, being so close to people and breathing the same air
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                                                                                                                      • Get the kids back to school, move house and get back on top of the bills due to the move. At the moment, just to have my family stuff under one roof would be enough for me so we no longer have to live in limbo any longer.
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                                                                                                                        • 2019 was to be my "year of travel" after yrs of family commitments keeping me at home. I couldn't decide where to go first, first time procrastination paid off. Until the world settles, travel will continue to be around NZ.
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                                                                                                                          • I'm putting all my overseas travelling on hold until this Covid situation calms down or when Covid gets eliminated. No overseas travelling until I feel it is safe to travel again.
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                                                                                                                            • I would like to see more of Australia if I can. So much beautiful places I have not seen. I have no wish to travel overseas like my younger years. Tasmania would be great to visit again. I would like to foster animals till they find a forever home.
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                                                                                                                              • ohhhh yes..fostering animals- what a lovely idea :)
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                                                                                                                            • I don't necessarily think covid will be a permanent Virus. If we can stop it mutating all the time. Sars-1 was gotten rid off. It's too early to say what will happen.
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                                                                                                                              • People should see more of their own country. That's how germs get spread around. People that come in to the country , they bring Viruses with them. Australia has got everything other countries have got. It's no big deal! People that want to travel all the time are so selfish!
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                                                                                                                                • I really don't care about travel. There should be much less of it. It's ruining the world. One day they will have to put a limit on travel. It also damages the environment. Australia should limit international travel to Australia once Covid is over. We depend on it too much.
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                                                                                                                                  • The number of infected people and deaths in Victoria and NSW are on the increase each day. In numerous other countries they have opened their borders and still faces daily infection numbers of over 100,000 and hundreds of deaths daily... Yesterday, on the TV news I heard that there are now 2 NEW variants of the covid-19 virus spreading around Victoria which goes by the names of MU and 1.12...... Keep in mind each new variant has always been more deadlier and contagious than previous versions. Earlier this year, I stated that each time the covid-19 virus transmits, it's DNA changes, it becomes more contagious and deadlier; which is why there has been numerous different variants of covid-19 around the world, because the more it spreads within any given country, the more it mutates and eventually creates that country's own variant of the covid-19 virus. At the time when I stated those facts, I also predicted that Australia WILL eventually come up with its own variant of the covid-19 virus...which is now a reality as I predicted with these 2 new strains called MU and 1.12. The Australian government, like overseas governments; want to open ALL State and International borders as soon as we reach 70 to 80% of the population being double vaccinated..... This is a major mistake as proven by those other countries. But governments all over the world have lost control of the covid-19 virus and have no idea what to do as they MUST think of the economy, small businesses, job losses and creations, and the public is fed up with constant lockdowns and small businesses are suffering; therefore because they have NO IDEA how to contain, control or eradicate this virus, they have thrown in the towel, given up and opening their borders. These governments KNOW that these vaccines provide much less that 90% protection from the virus and know that many people will still become infected, spread the virus and many will die, but to these governments, these people are collateral damage in a war against an unseen enemy. These vaccines DO offer some protection, therefore those who can be safely vaccinated should be vaccinated, PLUS for the rest of our lives we MUST wear face masks and rubber gloves plus social distance.....PLUS be extremely careful when travelling overseas because keep in mind other countries have extremely high numbers of infected people eery day
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                                                                                                                                    • Those new covid Variations did not start in Australia. It was overseas where they originated from.
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                                                                                                                                    • I agree Edward. The battle has already been lost. It’s now going to be purely an economic issue. We open borders when the cost/ benefit analysis is fiscally viable.
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                                                                                                                                    • God this is so depressing i want to hide in my bed :(
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                                                                                                                                  • I plan to live with Covid., it will persist just like the common cold and flu have done.
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                                                                                                                                    • I don't have any particular plans
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                                                                                                                                      • I would plan to travel to New York City, Orlando Florida ,Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Anaheim CA someday after Covid-19 goes away.
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                                                                                                                                        • Standby, here we come New York.
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                                                                                                                                          • Piss off then
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                                                                                                                                          • Start spreading the news......
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                                                                                                                                        • Would love to see family again in New Zealand that would be my first priority. My wish is to see Scotland whether it happens is debatable. Have done a lot of traveling prior to Covid so I consider myself to be very fortunate.
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                                                                                                                                          • Pollution, filth and social unrest have made most of the places I would have wanted to go to unattractive now.....Paris, London and Hong Kong STINK....still want to go to Svalbard..thats about it...and maybe move back to live in Scotland..who knows...I'm grateful that I travelled a lot when I was young...I'm fairly content now just to potter around and have fun at home...
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                                                                                                                                            • Every day is a new day to hope, dream and try.
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                                                                                                                                              • My partner and I have just bought our first home, that was one dream. We want to travel again.
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                                                                                                                                                • I think here in Australia we have been relatively lucky in comparison to other countries even with the idiots who flout the rules which have been put in place to nullify the virus effects. However, as I also live in Queensland we also have been left relatively free of the virus and our lockdowns have been limited. I do live on the border of NSW/Qld which causes angst but until this virus is under full control and it is safe to travel to other states I will be staying put. I have done my overseas travelling and visited many countries and although I loved it my sister who I travelled with has since passed and I have no further wish to travel without her. I am happy in my little bubble at the moment trying to keep away from the unmasked, unvaccinated, un social distancing people. I have family members with young children who live in Melbourne and Country Victoria now under lockdown and in isolation so am aware of the restrictive life they are under but they unlike many do not complain and realise it is safer to do so. Maybe this virus will be with us for years to come in some form or other and we will have to learn to live with it having yearly vaccines to protect us. Plans and dreams may have to be put on hold until there is a safe exit. Who wants to bring this virus home to their children, parents, grandparents and it seems now anyone can get it. We have a lot in hospital all under 30 and some under 5. We older people have at least realised some of our dreams and the younger ones will also be able to realise theirs maybe not this year but hopefully next year. Hang on to your dreams for now. Like the saying goes "it might not happen today but it will happen"
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                                                                                                                                                  • Unfortunately, in recent weeks there has been numerous newly born babies who has been placed into hospitals with the Delta covid-19...This does affect EVERYONE from birth to 120 years of age. It is here to stay and eventually we will ALL find a new way to live with it and in generations to come they will just accept it as a normal way of life. Between now and then we must hope that they find both a "CURE" and new safer vaccines which offer even more protection from existing and ALL future variants of this virus because as the months and years pass there will be MANY more variants of the covid-19 virus and each new variant will be more contagious and deadlier because that is how this virus works
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                                                                                                                                                    Ever heard of herd immunity? It happens with other Viruses. Will happen with Covid too.
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                                                                                                                                                • Dreams are free. Me ? I am going to continue to explore my beautiful NZ country. I never felt the need to venture out of NZ, even before Covid. As far as I am concerned, we have everything here we need ,right on our front door step. :)
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                                                                                                                                                  • Agreed :)
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                                                                                                                                                • Doing the same thing as I do in lockdown
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                                                                                                                                                • vacation at home
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                                                                                                                                                  • Quite a few of my friends and acquaintances who are in their 60s and 70s have the same sentiment as you Eileen.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Unfortunately, I reside in the USA. My hopes, dreams. and plans were destroy by covid19. I do not see the demise of covid19 in my lifetime (and I am already OLD)! However, that homo sapiens are BUTTHOLES was REAFFIRM (and on a global basis)!
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                                                                                                                                                      • Poor, poor pitiful you. Pathetic.....
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